porky88
12 years ago

The guy I could see taking over Woodsons current role if it were necessary is Jarrett Bush. As far as I can tell he's always been a pretty reliable and willing tackler and his coverage skills wouldn't be tested nearly as much as an outsider CB. He's got the right physical body type and size for it too. I believe they used him in that position to blitz quite a bit last year too.

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded 


Bush could bump Shields if Woodson stays at corner. I think the Packers pulled Shields against the Giants and put Bush in. I didn't notice this while at the game. I was too disgusted to focus, but I read or heard as much later. Someone may want to fact check me, though. Regardless, the Packers need multiple defensive backs to step up next year. Bush is among the candidates, though I could see him getting a shot to play safety, too.
Pack93z
12 years ago
I think the lockout last season had the biggest impact on then second year players.. guys coming off their first season as a pro. How to handle it.. how to stay sharp and focused on the next season.. and in the Packers case how to handle success.

Shields played so well as a rookie.. that I have a hard time thinking he will not regain that form.. especially when getting humbled last season with struggle.

IMO, I think being a pro player is almost more about what you do off the field than on it, guys coming into their first offseason as a pro and then being locked out.. it has to have an impact upon their development and carry over from the rookie season. Vets have been there before and could somewhat keep themselves on schedule. Incoming rookies are just anxious to get there.. that the lockout impacted them but not to the same degree as players coming off their rookie year.

Season is over.. what now and you haven't been there before.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
12 years ago

I’m going to roam a little bit. It’s different than corner. It’ll be fun to play more safety. It’ll play to my advantage.

Charles Woodson wrote:


UserPostedImage
dhpackr
12 years ago
I find it scary Bush will be starting at rcb. He is a liability in man coverage. In my opinion, Shields will eventually beat out Bush for the starting cb position next to Williams. Shields is playing for his job right now and that tends to bring out the best in a individual. Sheilds has to much speed to just toss him aside. His problem was his toughness and ability to tackle. I feel Sam can overcome these obstacles and return to his starting role. Bush will be utilized on special teams.

Sheilds Starter 

Bush Starter 
So if you meet me Have some courtesy, Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse, Or I'll lay your soul to waste
gbguy20
12 years ago

I find it scary Bush will be starting at rcb. He is a liability in man coverage. In my opinion, Shields will eventually beat out Bush for the starting cb position next to Williams. Shields is playing for his job right now and that tends to bring out the best in a individual. Sheilds has to much speed to just toss him aside. His problem was his toughness and ability to tackle. I feel Sam can overcome these obstacles and return to his starting role. Bush will be utilized on special teams.

Sheilds Starter 

Bush Starter 

Originally Posted by: dhpackr 



heres part of a tweet from tom silverstein this morning:

CB Sam Shields had a horrible day, getting burned three times and getting pulled out of the dime in favor of Casey Hayward and Davon House.

ps. house has had 2 int's in camp already.
same with hayward
BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.
steveishere
12 years ago
I don't care what Jarrett Bush did in 2010 or before that. The fact is that since the Superbowl he has been pretty good in coverage. Now that is with limited playing time so we have to wait and see what happens if he gets more snaps but I'm not so down on seeing him on the field as I would have been a few years ago. I'm not going to let things that he did before cloud my judgement of him now and IMO people shouldn't hold the past against the guy so much.
porky88
12 years ago
Bush just might be a slow developer. The Packers have spoiled us because so many young players contribute immediately. However, Bush's transition to the NFL has been a slow one. I’m just speculating (haven’t seen any practice), but he may just now be reaching the point where he can start. It took him six seasons, but his timing couldn’t be better, as Green Bay needs a couple of corners to step up.
nerdmann
12 years ago

Bush just might be a slow developer. The Packers have spoiled us because so many young players contribute immediately. However, Bush's transition to the NFL has been a slow one. I’m just speculating (haven’t seen any practice), but he may just now be reaching the point where he can start. It took him six seasons, but his timing couldn’t be better, as Green Bay needs a couple of corners to step up.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



Dunno, Bush is what he is. He's usually in position, but he just can't make a play on the ball. It's like Roland Mitchell 2.0.

Bush knows all the guys on the team and has practiced against them for years. He's Mr. August. I like him better in the slot, blitzing the QB and stuffing the run than on the outside covering man-up down the field.

If anyone supplants Shields, it's gonna be House or Heyward. But I still think Shields is gonna bounce back from this.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DakotaT
12 years ago
I love Bush. That pick in the Super Bowl was for all the dipshits that picked on him unmercifully - including myself. But, he is not starting material. He is our special teams ace that has the ability to fill in for an injured player anywhere in the secondary, and that is the role he should relish. Bush is just not starting material in this league, but he is a valuable player for the Packers, and I hope he always knows his role.

I want House and Heyward to step up and take the starting and nickel roles and push Shields back to dime. They have the pedigree of the high draft picks. We've had a lot of busts in the second and third rounds at corner - and I'm hoping the H boys change that for us.

And I like Wood at safety. He is a cerebral player, and very much needed calling out the defense. Using the Nick Collins injury as a reason to move there is a great way for an aging player to salvage pride with declining physical skills. In the meantime; Jennings, Levine, and McMillian can battle to be the next guy to step up.
UserPostedImage
nerdmann
12 years ago
Bush got that INT in the Superbowl filling in for Woody at the slot position.

Right now he's lined up on the outside. I don't think that fits him as well.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Fan Shout
Martha Careful (3h) : thank you Mucky for sticking up for me
Martha Careful (3h) : some of those people are smarter than you zero. However Pete Carroll is not
Mucky Tundra (6h) : Rude!
beast (7h) : Martha? 😋
Zero2Cool (11h) : Raiders hired someone from the elderly home.
dfosterf (13h) : I'm going with a combination of the two.
beast (15h) : Either the Cowboys have no idea what they're doing, or they're targeting their former OC, currently the Eagles OC
Zero2Cool (23-Jan) : Fake news. Cowboys say no
Zero2Cool (23-Jan) : Mystery candidate in the Cowboys head coaching search believed to be Packers ST Coordinator Rich Bisaccia.
beast (23-Jan) : Also why do both NYC teams have absolutely horrible OL for over a decade?
beast (23-Jan) : I wonder why the Jets always hire defensive coaches to be head coach
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Still HC positions available out there. I wonder if Hafley pops up for one
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Trent Baalke is out as the Jaguars GM.
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Jeff Hafley would have been a better choice, fortunately they don't know that. Someone will figure that out next off season
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Aaron Glenn Planning To Take Jets HC Job
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Martha- C'est mon boulot! 😁
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Thank you
wpr (22-Jan) : Z, glad you are feeling better.
wpr (22-Jan) : My son and D-I-L work for UM. It's a way to pick on them.
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Thank you. I rarely get sick, and even more rarely sick to the point I can't work.
wpr (22-Jan) : Beast- back to yesterday, I CAN say OSU your have been Michigan IF the odds of making the playoffs were more urgent.
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Glad to hear you are feeling a bit better.
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : I've been near death ill last several days, finally feel less dead and site issues.
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : It is a big deal. This host is having issues. It's frustrating.
Martha Careful (22-Jan) : just kidding...it was down
Martha Careful (22-Jan) : you were blocked yesterday, due to a a recalcitrant demeanor yesterday in the penalty box for a recalcitrant demeanor
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Was that site shutdown on your end or mine? No big deal, just curious
beast (21-Jan) : That way teams like Indiana and SMU don't make the conference championships by simply avoiding all the other good teams in their own confere
beast (21-Jan) : Also, with these "Super Conferences" instead of a single conference champion, have 4 teams make a Conference playoffs.
beast (21-Jan) : Also in college football, is a bye week a good or bad thing?
Martha Careful (21-Jan) : The tournament format was fine. Seeding could use some work.
beast (21-Jan) : You can't assume Ohio State would of won the Michigan game...
beast (21-Jan) : Rankings were 1) Oregon 2) Georgia 3) Texas 4) Penn State 5) Notre Dame 6) Ohio State, none of the rest mattered
wpr (21-Jan) : Texas, ND and OSU would have been fighting for the final 2 slots.
wpr (21-Jan) : Oregon and Georgia were locks. Without the luxury of extra playoff berths, Ohios St would have been more focused on Michigan game.
wpr (21-Jan) : Zero, no. If there were only 4 teams Ohio State would have been one of them. Boise St and ASU would not have been selected.
Zero2Cool (21-Jan) : So that was 7 vs 8, that means in BCS they never would made it?
Martha Careful (21-Jan) : A great game. Give ND credit for coming back, although I am please with the outcome.
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : FG to make it academic
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : and there's the dagger
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ooooo 8 point game with 4 minutes to go!
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ooooooooohhhhhh he missed!
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Ooooo that completion makes things VERY interesting
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Game not over yet
beast (21-Jan) : Oh yeah, Georgia starting quarterback season ending elbow injury
beast (21-Jan) : Sadly something happened to Georgia... they should be playing in this game against Ohio State
beast (21-Jan) : I thought Ohio State and Texas were both better than Notre Dame & Penn State
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Notre Lame getting rolled
Martha Careful (21-Jan) : Ohio State just got punched in the gut. Lets see how they respond
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Notre Lame vs the Luckeyes, bleh
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
3h / Random Babble / Martha Careful

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

21-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

21-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-Jan / Random Babble / Martha Careful

18-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.