Yerko
12 years ago
I feel this can go so many ways with how other scenarios play out.

DL Roster according to packers.com:

DT-Mike Daniels- IN (although I think as a DE)
DT-Ryan Pickett- IN
DT-B.J. Raji- IN

DE-Lawrence Guy- IN
DE-Anthony Hargrove- IN (if he gets the suspension lessened or none at all: see the Williams Wall)
DE-Mike Neal- IN (Harrell treatment. No way Ted Thompson cuts one of his high DL picks so quickly)
DE-Jerel Worthy- IN (I think Worthy can also be a rotational guy at NT, if need be)

DE-C.J. Wilson- CUT
DE-Jarius Wynn- CUT
DT-Daniel Muir- CUT

DL-Johnny Jones- PS

7 DL.
UserPostedImage
beast
12 years ago

As Zero has said over and over and over again, GB didn't "let Jenkins "go". They didn't throw a sh!t load of money at him 2 years before his contract was up and he got a little grumpy over it. GB actually offered him more than Phillie did.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



First off I didn't know GB offered him more than Philly did, thank for that. But that wasn't the point of my comment. The point being some fans wanted Jenkins gone (or some citing the injuries for reasons he should be gone after he signed with the Eagles) because of injuries, just like some are now wanting to do with Neal.

Can Neal play at a high level in the NFL? I don't know... but the Packers shouldn't give up on him, they should give him a fair shot just like everyone else... let them compete for it.

Comparing Neal to Rodgers and Jenkins is pretty silly.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



No it's not... Rodgers, Jolly, Jenkins, Harrell and Neal all have something in common to me. I've heard fans give up on them when they got injured saying things like "____ can't stay healthy get rid of him" just like you did with Neal. Harrell didn't make it physical... but the rest did. Jolly didn't make it, but that's because he got locked up for illegal drugs and couldn't stay clean and away from drugs.

Also players can take a couple of years to get used to the NFL. Raji wasn't a star as a rookie, Nelson didn't hit it big until the late part of his 3rd year. Giving up on talented players too early what's pretty silly. Unless they're getting out played, on the field, and the others DEs didn't stand out from Neal, and Neal has more potential.
UserPostedImage
beast
12 years ago

I feel this can go so many ways with how other scenarios play out.

DL Roster according to packers.com:

DT-Mike Daniels- IN (although I think as a DE)
DT-Ryan Pickett- IN
DT-B.J. Raji- IN

DE-Lawrence Guy- IN
DE-Anthony Hargrove- IN (if he gets the suspension lessened or none at all: see the Williams Wall)
DE-Mike Neal- IN (Harrell treatment. No way Ted Thompson cuts one of his high DL picks so quickly)
DE-Jerel Worthy- IN (I think Worthy can also be a rotational guy at NT, if need be)

DE-C.J. Wilson- CUT
DE-Jarius Wynn- CUT
DT-Daniel Muir- CUT

DL-Johnny Jones- PS

7 DL.

Originally Posted by: G-Force 



I also think their will be 7 DL because they're going to be playing more 3 DL fronts which means more depth than the normal 6.

That being said Neal and Hargrove start the season suspended and probably on the reserve/suspended list which I think frees up roster spots.

Also I don't think Guy is a lock for that spot. I think Wilson has shown the most compete game of the guys cut. But a lot depends on what new things they're doing with the 3-4.

I don't think Packers.com usually chanced Pickett and Raji to DTs in the other off seasons, so they're ether doing something new, (I just don't remember them do it in the past) or Capers is doing a new scheme... which could be possible as the Packers have talked about changing this up and using the 3-4 more and Capers has talked about building the system around the players. So I think there could be some changes.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
12 years ago

I feel this can go so many ways with how other scenarios play out.

DL Roster according to packers.com:

DT-Mike Daniels- IN (although I think as a DE)
DT-Ryan Pickett- IN
DT-B.J. Raji- IN

DE-Lawrence Guy- IN
DE-Anthony Hargrove- IN (if he gets the suspension lessened or none at all: see the Williams Wall)
DE-Mike Neal- IN (Harrell treatment. No way Ted Thompson cuts one of his high DL picks so quickly)
DE-Jerel Worthy- IN (I think Worthy can also be a rotational guy at NT, if need be)

DE-C.J. Wilson- CUT
DE-Jarius Wynn- CUT
DT-Daniel Muir- CUT

DL-Johnny Jones- PS

7 DL.

Originally Posted by: G-Force 



Pickett is more effective on the end.
Raji is more effective at the nose.

UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
12 years ago

First off I didn't know GB offered him more than Philly did, thank for that. But that wasn't the point of my comment. The point being some fans wanted Jenkins gone (or some citing the injuries for reasons he should be gone after he signed with the Eagles) because of injuries, just like some are now wanting to do with Neal.

Can Neal play at a high level in the NFL? I don't know... but the Packers shouldn't give up on him, they should give him a fair shot just like everyone else... let them compete for it.



No it's not... Rodgers, Jolly, Jenkins, Harrell and Neal all have something in common to me. I've heard fans give up on them when they got injured saying things like "____ can't stay healthy get rid of him" just like you did with Neal. Harrell didn't make it physical... but the rest did. Jolly didn't make it, but that's because he got locked up for illegal drugs and couldn't stay clean and away from drugs.

Also players can take a couple of years to get used to the NFL. Raji wasn't a star as a rookie, Nelson didn't hit it big until the late part of his 3rd year. Giving up on talented players too early what's pretty silly. Unless they're getting out played, on the field, and the others DEs didn't stand out from Neal, and Neal has more potential.

Originally Posted by: beast 




I can see how you may not have known that GB offered him more money. I didn't know either. Until Kevin repeatedly responded to some of the very people you are talking about. He has mentioned the Phil vs GB comparison about 15-20 times (maybe 1500-2000 times) since Jenkins signed with the Eagles.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
12 years ago

First off I didn't know GB offered him more than Philly did, thank for that. But that wasn't the point of my comment. The point being some fans wanted Jenkins gone (or some citing the injuries for reasons he should be gone after he signed with the Eagles) because of injuries, just like some are now wanting to do with Neal.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Its easy to say 'some' fans wanted this, because no fan base is unified on any one subject aside from WINNING. That said, I don't think folks wanted Cullen Jenkins gone, but rather wanted Jenkins back at a reasonable price with INCENTIVES that protected the Packers financially, yet still rewarded Cullen Jenkins play.

It's just hard to give a guy lots of guaranteed money who has seen the injury bug and is hitting 30 quickly.
UserPostedImage
play2win
12 years ago


It's just hard to give a guy lots of guaranteed money who has seen the injury bug and is hitting 30 quickly.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



.. and that is where I cut Ted Thompson some slack. Man, that proved to be a tough loss for us. Wow. Those are really tough calls to make.
yooperfan
12 years ago

First off I didn't know GB offered him more than Philly did, thank for that. But that wasn't the point of my comment. The point being some fans wanted Jenkins gone (or some citing the injuries for reasons he should be gone after he signed with the Eagles) because of injuries, just like some are now wanting to do with Neal.

Can Neal play at a high level in the NFL? I don't know... but the Packers shouldn't give up on him, they should give him a fair shot just like everyone else... let them compete for it.



No it's not... Rodgers, Jolly, Jenkins, Harrell and Neal all have something in common to me. I've heard fans give up on them when they got injured saying things like "____ can't stay healthy get rid of him" just like you did with Neal. Harrell didn't make it physical... but the rest did. Jolly didn't make it, but that's because he got locked up for illegal drugs and couldn't stay clean and away from drugs.

Also players can take a couple of years to get used to the NFL. Raji wasn't a star as a rookie, Nelson didn't hit it big until the late part of his 3rd year. Giving up on talented players too early what's pretty silly. Unless they're getting out played, on the field, and the others DEs didn't stand out from Neal, and Neal has more potential.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Rodgers and Jenkins produced when healthy, hell they even produced when injured.
Neal and Harrell did not.
Just my opinion, but I believe Neal and Harrell are cut from the same cloth with the exception that Harrell never got suspended.
Okay maybe Neal benefits from the suspension and comes back very healthy, good for us, fresh legs.
But the minute he gets a hang nail and can't play I'll be waving bye bye.
Myself I would rather not wait.

nerdmann
12 years ago
When my boy Neal gets healthy and starts to dominate, you'll all be eating crow.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (6m) : Free agent DT Poona Ford to the #Rams on a 3-year, $30M
dfosterf (6m) : Imo cooper kupp is pretty much stupid money spending
Zero2Cool (8m) : Dayo Odeyingbo to the Bears
Zero2Cool (8m) : oops
Zero2Cool (9m) : CB Darius Slay to sign with the Steelers
buckeyepackfan (17m) : Justin Fields to The Jets!
Martha Careful (17m) : Justin Field to the Jets
buckeyepackfan (17m) : Cooper Kupp! After all the stupid money is spent.
Zero2Cool (18m) : Colts are signing Vikings S Cam Bynum
buckeyepackfan (19m) : "Stupid Money" week underway. Let's see if Gute can pluck another gem this year. #8 & #29 last year, who can it be this year? My money is on
Martha Careful (23m) : Former Eagles cornerback Darius Slay is signing with the Steelers, per Jordan Schultz.
Martha Careful (32m) : Sam Darnold is off to the Seattle Seahawks. It’s a three-year, $110.5 m 55m guaranteed.
beast (37m) : Yeah, Adebo has high risk, high reward, longs of INTs but also lots of getting burned deep... I was going to be surprised if we overpaid him
beast (38m) : Adams is from greater Standford area, but when to College in Fresno
Martha Careful (38m) : scratch that...he just signed with the giants
Martha Careful (39m) : Multiple NFL experts assert former Saints standout Paulson Adebo is Packers top choice.
beast (41m) : Rodgers always said he thought it would be very cool to play for the Steelers head coach
Martha Careful (1h) : Boooo
Zero2Cool (1h) : CB DJ Reed to Lions
Zero2Cool (1h) : Packers reporter saying don't be surprised if Packers keep Alexander
Zero2Cool (2h) : Rodgers to Steelers seems to be getting some steam
Zero2Cool (2h) : C Drew Dalman to Chicago
Zero2Cool (2h) : Godwin remains with Bucs. Another WR that won't join Super Bowl run
Zero2Cool (4h) : Packers will NOT re-sign Josh Myers, BillHuber
Zero2Cool (4h) : No Block, No Rock!
Zero2Cool (4h) : Free Agency day and Tweeter is down haha
Martha Careful (5h) : Pickens, no thanks...does not like to block and dumb.
Zero2Cool (5h) : Rodgers and the Steelers are expected to talk and explore a union. The idea of Rodgers playing for Mike Tomlin is in play.
Zero2Cool (5h) : Adam Schefter also saying few hours ago Rodgers Steelers
dfosterf (5h) : PFT Steelers considering Rodgers
Zero2Cool (6h) : I don't want him, but paying two WR $30m plus isn't good
Zero2Cool (6h) : Steelers and George Pickens. I wonder if he's available.
Martha Careful (7h) : Any intest in Van Jefferson? Steelers may let him go cheap.
Zero2Cool (7h) : Kupp probably traded eventually
Mucky Tundra (7h) : If Adams still has some gas in the tank, then Adams and Nacua should do alright along with whatever the corpse of Kupp can throw in
buckeyepackfan (17h) : Sorry 13 mil guaranteed.
buckeyepackfan (17h) : Aaron Jones resigns with The Vikings. 2yr 20mil, 12mil guaranteed.
Zero2Cool (17h) : Adams preffered west coast.
buckeyepackfan (18h) : DeShaun Watson wants a new deal! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
buckeyepackfan (18h) : Josh Allen extension includes 250mil in GUARANTEED money!
buckeyepackfan (18h) : Metcalf traded to The Steelers. Every year I forget this is Misinformation time. Have to quit listening to "The talking heads" 😀
dhazer (19h) : or do we tell them we take metcalf you take alexander lol
dhazer (19h) : I am curious about if we waste money on Metcalf he isn't worth $30 million a year
dhazer (19h) : Adams is going to a good team and gets to play indoors majority of the time can't blame him and isn't he from Fresno?
Zero2Cool (19h) : Rams land Adams of Davante fame.
Martha Careful (21h) : it's funny how guys who are so desperate to play for championships, at least so they say, just take the money.
Mucky Tundra (22h) : Semantics ;)
Zero2Cool (22h) : They didn't return. They didn't even leave! ;-)
Mucky Tundra (22h) : Crosby and Garrett return to their respective teams; truckloads of $$$ solved any problems they had
dhazer (9-Mar) : Russell Wilson will be back in Seattle as a bridge
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

6-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

4-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

4-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

4-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

3-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

3-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

1-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

28-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

28-Feb / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.