dhazer
12 years ago
Hey Zombie, did you see anywhere that it says Collins retired? I see him going to a NFC Norris team, to show Ted Thompson that he was healthy enough to play.

Just heard on ESPN that Collins agent says Collins isnt sure if he is going to keep playing or retire? HMMMMMM Collins doctor cleared him but Packers doctors didn't?
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12 years ago

Hey Zombie, did you see anywhere that it says Collins retired? I see him going to a NFC Norris team, to show Ted Thompson that he was healthy enough to play.

Just heard on ESPN that Collins agent says Collins isnt sure if he is going to keep playing or retire? HMMMMMM Collins doctor cleared him but Packers doctors didn't?

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NFC Norris? WTF is that?

It's going to be interesting to hear the facts on the results instead of speculation.
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Arrigo
12 years ago
Collins loss was about his long term health as a person, NOT a player. Thompson and McCarthy care about (or dare I say love) Collins. This was a decision that they took their time in making and was not made with a dollar sign (cap savings) in mind.

Collins still hasn't been cleared to play and is seeking various opinions from doctors to see if he will be able to ever play again.

I was told that he has an open invitation to be a part of the staff/organization when he is ready.

I loved watching Collins play. He grew so much as a player and it was refreshing to see him live up to his his talent.

More on the Collins release and what could be happening next in the new OTS (out later tonight).

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zombieslayer
12 years ago

Hey Zombie, did you see anywhere that it says Collins retired? I see him going to a NFC Norris team, to show Ted Thompson that he was healthy enough to play.

Just heard on ESPN that Collins agent says Collins isnt sure if he is going to keep playing or retire? HMMMMMM Collins doctor cleared him but Packers doctors didn't?

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Nope. Talking out of my ass.

(Actually, I'm hoping he retires for his sake.)
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12 years ago
This is just sad. I think the Packers did the right thing. I really hope Nick doesn't risk his health to play again, it's not worth it. Thank you Nick Collins for being one heck of a player for the Packers.
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12 years ago
I was waiting for this article to be written. I remember LeRoy Butler expressing his ... thoughts ... on someone wearing his number so soon. Thank you Tom! Click his name to support his hard work!

Butler says Collins made him proud to share jersey No. 36

When he first was told that a second-round pick from Bethune-Cookman was going to be wearing his jersey just three years after he had retired, Packers safety LeRoy Butler was puzzled.

Voted the strong safety of the decade for the '90s, Butler thought it might be a little bit early to be giving his jersey away. Then he talked with first-year GM Ted Thompson.

"He told me, 'We found the right guy to wear that number; that's Nick Collins,'" Butler said in a phone interview from New York, where he'll announce the Packers' second-round pick on Friday. "And he was right. They found a guy who was able to fill my shoes and he was great on and off the field.

"It's one of my saddest days as a Packers fan that he won't be wearing No. 36 anymore. It would be a good opportunity to retire it or put it away for good."

Collins was released Wednesday after the Packers' brass decided they didn't feel comfortable with him playing following single-level cervical fusion surgery. Collins hasn't decided whether he wants to play yet, but he has been encouraged by how he has felt in his recovery and has expressed a desire to return if the doctors will clear him.

Butler said he understood Collins' desire to play again and said it would be up to him "to look the doctor in the eye and have him tell him that it's safe for him to play." Butler said he faced the same situation after the 2001 season when team physician Patrick McKenzie told him his shoulder was in no condition to play again.

Ultimately, Butler took McKenzie's advice and retired. But he was much older at the time and in the twilight of his career. Collins will turn 29 in August.

As for his feelings about Collins, Butler said he couldn't be prouder to have shared the number with him.

"He wore that number with the most honor," Butler said. "It made me happy that they found someone who could wear that jersey with honor for another eight years, I think Nick will be remembered as part of the long tradition of great safeties the Packers have had over the years.

"You're talking Darren Sharper, Eugene Robinson, Willie Wood, myself. There's always been someone keeping that alive."

As for Collins' future, Butler said he could see Detroit or Chicago giving Collins a chance if their doctors are willing to clear him. But he thinks it will all come down to Collins feeling that it's safe for him to return to the game.

"I'm glad he got to play on a Super Bowl team," Butler said. "He was able to get that ring."

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Collins loss was about his long term health as a person, NOT a player. Thompson and McCarthy care about (or dare I say love) Collins. This was a decision that they took their time in making and was not made with a dollar sign (cap savings) in mind.

Collins still hasn't been cleared to play and is seeking various opinions from doctors to see if he will be able to ever play again.

I was told that he has an open invitation to be a part of the staff/organization when he is ready.

I loved watching Collins play. He grew so much as a player and it was refreshing to see him live up to his his talent.

More on the Collins release and what could be happening next in the new OTS (out later tonight).

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It was my understanding that he was cleared by the doc who did the surgery. Now they're saying he hasn't been cleared at all. What's up with that?
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12 years ago
this has to be very hard on Nick. he is a wonderful guy and a super player. I am glad he was able to play for the green and gold. I wish him the very best in his future.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

It was my understanding that he was cleared by the doc who did the surgery. Now they're saying he hasn't been cleared at all. What's up with that?

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Nothing has been officially stated about whom cleared him and did not clear him, well, I suppose it's official the Packers did not clear him.

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It was my understanding that he was cleared by the doc who did the surgery. Now they're saying he hasn't been cleared at all. What's up with that?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



You are still missing the point. If 100 drs lined up and gave Collins their ok that was not going to be good enough for Ted and Mike. They are about the man a lot more than they care about the player. They simply did not want to see him crippled for the rest of his life if they had a say in the matter. And they do. Nick may play again for another team. They can not stop him. But they made sure it didn't happen while he was in green and gold.
Obviously THEY know how much risk is involved in playing in the NFL. It is their opinion that the neck injury unnecessarily added risk. There is a huge difference between someone injuring their arm/leg and having to deal with it for the rest of their life and Nick being paralyzed forever.

We all know you disagree with their decision that is your right. Many of us feel it was the right call.
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