zombieslayer
13 years ago
He'd have to drop about what, 40 pounds to be an OLB?
Hmm...

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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Maybe dropping a few dozen pounds off his frame would help him dodge some injuries? I don't know. Either way, the guy doesn't seem to have any luck staying on the field. He wasn't good in college and can't even stay on the field as a professional.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

Shields also didn't seem the least bit embarrassed about turning down tackles and keeping an arm's length away from piles.

Bob McGinn wrote:


Ah, so I wasn't the only one who saw this! I mentioned it several times in the chat room, usually to a barrage of flak. To me it was glaringly obvious. I am surprise McGinn didn't call out Wynn and Wilson for the same problem, but maybe they didn't play enough to warrant it.

McGinn's critiques of the secondary are positively scathing. He calls them to task -- and rightly so -- for constantly trying to rely on hunches or guesses instead of defending the players in front of them. It wasn't so much that these guys couldn't defend this year -- it was more that they chose not to. They preferred to showboat instead of putting their man on the ground, and fortunately for them, as long as the offense kept up the high-flying acrobatics, they escaped the criticism due them.
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13 years ago

Maybe dropping a few dozen pounds off his frame would help him dodge some injuries? I don't know. Either way, the guy doesn't seem to have any luck staying on the field. He wasn't good in college and can't even stay on the field as a professional.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




I suppose it would HAVE to be easier on the knees to play at a more human weight of 260-270 or so than 290-300. They say for normal people a one pound weight loss results in something like 4 pounds less pressure on the knees, and that much go up significantly with the forces in professional sports. I wonder if he could do it.

What do you mean Neal wasn't good in college, Zero? I hadn't heard that.
13 years ago

McGinn's critiques of the secondary are positively scathing. He calls them to task -- and rightly so -- for constantly trying to rely on hunches or guesses instead of defending the players in front of them. It wasn't so much that these guys couldn't defend this year -- it was more that they chose not to. They preferred to showboat instead of putting their man on the ground, and fortunately for them, as long as the offense kept up the high-flying acrobatics, they escaped the criticism due them.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



I'm with you on that. The lack of pass rush made their job harder for sure, but the secondary just plain sucked ass. Burnett and Peprah running in circles downfield while the receiver easily beats them both to the endzone (can't remember the game, but ugh), Woodson falling down, Tramon not even coming anywhere near a receiver and getting targeted in coverage, Shields being a pussy about tackling... Horrible.

They would have been pretty bad pass rush or not. When they DID get some pressure, QBs had NO problem finding someone to unload the ball to. Even if it was an unblocked blitzer flying in the ball was generally out because they didn't cover for shit, even for the first two seconds of the play sometimes.

I blame Woodson, personally. He's the leader, and "freelancing" has always been his style. Now the other guys learned it from him. It's great when they are the hero, but they give up SO many passes that it's like Faver chucking the ball up all over again- great play, then two shitty plays.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Is this threat titled Sam Shields or Mike Neal? I'm confused from the last couple posts. WHICH DIRECTION DO I GO????

Oh, it's the off season, who gives a flying frickity fuckity fuck! Stupid ass Giants.


Mike Neal can't play DE or OLB. He's always hurt. I read a quote from him that completely soured me on him. He was asked what kind of impact he intends to have... he responded back with he just wants to on the field and that is his ONLY goal for 2011. Seriously?
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13 years ago

Mike Neal can't play DE or OLB. He's always hurt. I read a quote from him that completely soured me on him. He was asked what kind of impact he intends to have... he responded back with he just wants to on the field and that is his ONLY goal for 2011. Seriously?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



That was probably what the coaches told him to aim for. I read that McCarthy told Finley to aim for "just playing all the games" this year, coming off his knee surgery.
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13 years ago
It would be an interesting idea. I am doubtful Neal has the ability to pull it off.

After reading the recap I have to wonder where Bob got his stats from. He says Neal had 6 tackles. Neal had 3 this year. I checked NFL.com/Packers/ESPN/CBS and JSOnline and they all show 1 tackle and 2 assists for the regular season. I finally looked and saw he had one more tackle in the Giants debacle so I doubt that Bob is adding that game's stats as well.

Then I realized Bob must mean 6 tackles in 2 seasons. Sure enough Neal had 3 last year in 2 games. Makes me wonder if he also meant the 158 snaps were over a 2 year period as well. Sometimes it is difficult to figure out where these guys are coming from. The 158 snaps in 8 games has to be this season alone. I guess.

Thanks for the clarity Bob. If you are going to piss all over someone at least have the decency to have the "facts" you are using for your argument correct.
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13 years ago

That was probably what the coaches told him to aim for. I read that McCarthy told Finley to aim for "just playing all the games" this year, coming off his knee surgery.

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau 



HUGE difference, H-U-G-E!! A coach can say that publicly, fine. But a PLAYER saying that? Sorry, that is not cool. You want the players to want to contribute, to make a difference on the field. Not just to be able to walk off after every play.


A player who's injured should be saying things like he's glad to be on the field and can't wait to make a difference and help the team win. Mike Neal, from other comments of his, has a defeated attitude.


Edit, that comparison really bugs me. Jermichael Finley was boasting about his YOTTO or whatever. He was talking about being the best TE in the game, etc... Mike McCarthy responding to that by saying they just wanted him to play in all the games this year and that was his only goal for Finley.

It's really annoying when people take something out of context and try using it in an argument as if it's identical.
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