zombieslayer
13 years ago

Up until last year, I had argued that Raji was overrated. Last year, I thought I had been proven wrong. This year, I think he was not just overrated. I think he played badly. As Stevetarded pointed out, he didn't win many one-on-ones. It would be one thing if he was being doubled or tripled every play. But as the season progressed, he was usually one-on-one except when the team only rushed three. Clay took two blockers. Pickett usually took two. But Raji? Much more often it was one-on-one.

That doesn't make him "bad." He hasn't been in the league long enough to call him "bad". But he definitely had a bad year.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



He certainly didn't deserve a trip to the Pro Bowl. That's pretty certain.
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macbob
13 years ago
Here's my priority list of things to fix:

1) DL (Pass rushing DE opposite CM3)
2) S (or CB, and move Woodson to S--I think Woody might do a pretty good Leroy Butler impersonation)
3) WR (DD's probably gone, leaving us Jennings/Nelson/Cobb/Jones--we'll need a 5th, especially if Finley departs)
4) OLB (not as critical if #1 is filled)
5) OL (think we're OK with a starting five if Clifton retires, but will be short when injuries hit)

RBs I think we'd be OK with Starks/Seine/Kuhn.

TEs I think could use improvement, but we'd be OK with the group we have (we were carrying enough of them this year).

QBs I think we're OK with Harrell as backup--they like him enough to bring him up to the 53 man roster to keep him from signing with someone else. We'll need to get HIS backup, but can wait until a later round to do so.

6) Pad level. We need to get that fixed.
nerdmann
13 years ago

Here's my priority list of things to fix:

1) DL (Pass rushing DE opposite CM3)
2) S (or CB, and move Woodson to S--I think Woody might do a pretty good Leroy Butler impersonation)
3) WR (DD's probably gone, leaving us Jennings/Nelson/Cobb/Jones--we'll need a 5th, especially if Finley departs)
4) OLB (not as critical if #1 is filled)
5) OL (think we're OK with a starting five if Clifton retires, but will be short when injuries hit)

RBs I think we'd be OK with Starks/Seine/Kuhn.

TEs I think could use improvement, but we'd be OK with the group we have (we were carrying enough of them this year).

QBs I think we're OK with Harrell as backup--they like him enough to bring him up to the 53 man roster to keep him from signing with someone else. We'll need to get HIS backup, but can wait until a later round to do so.

6) Pad level. We need to get that fixed.

Originally Posted by: macbob 


Keep in mind we also have Green at RB. Dude led the nation in ypc. As for WR, we've got Gurley on the PS, the dude who in TC consistently blocked punts and kicks. Dude's not a speedster, but he's got size like Plaxico. At TE, Quarless will probably get PUP'd, but we should end up with Finley for one more year. I see Ted drafting a QB late as a project. The key here will be if we lose Tom Clements. He's a great QB coach. MM is a QB guru himself, so we should be able to replace Clements if lost, but it is an issue on which to keep an eye. Harrell could become a solid career backup if he continues to progress.
As for Raji (previous poster) I think not only was he playing out of position this year so that Pickett could go back to the nose, but he was also asked to be in there for far to many plays, which probably wore him down.
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dyeah_gb
13 years ago
DBs are my main concern. Woodson age is catching up to him. I don't understand why moving him to safety will address this issue. Is Collin's career definitely done? A key component that is needed is more chemistry on the D. Better communication before the snap will improve the D.

As for DL, I am looking optimistically that Neal will get a chance to improve with a full offseason. If he still is not productive next year then it will be time to move on.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

DBs are my main concern. Woodson age is catching up to him. I don't understand why moving him to safety will address this issue. Is Collin's career definitely done? A key component that is needed is more chemistry on the D. Better communication before the snap will improve the D.

As for DL, I am looking optimistically that Neal will get a chance to improve with a full offseason. If he still is not productive next year then it will be time to move on.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 


Collins is gonna get re-examined in March, so Ted should know his status before the draft. I'm kind of worried about the situation, because I thought he had earlier been saying that he should know by now. Dude was SO good. Such a shame.
If Collins does return, I look for Woody to continue playing his hybrid CB/S slot position with Tramon and Shields on the outside. Hopefully Davon House takes a step up. The coaches have been doing that thing where they release press statements saying he has to dedicate himself as a pro and whatnot.

As for Neal, he's hopeful that resting his knee will let it get back to 100%.   I think it's possible, and it would be great to see him do so. Personally, his shit really pissed me off this year, but I think he'll be back and he'll be fine. I'm not writing him off as a bust at this point. HOWEVER I do see Ted addressing the position, as well as ROLB.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

DBs are my main concern. Woodson age is catching up to him. I don't understand why moving him to safety will address this issue. Is Collin's career definitely done? A key component that is needed is more chemistry on the D. Better communication before the snap will improve the D.

As for DL, I am looking optimistically that Neal will get a chance to improve with a full offseason. If he still is not productive next year then it will be time to move on.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



Collins' career may be over.

As for Woodson moving to Safety, the reason why older CBs move to Safety is because CBs are faster than Safeties. You could lose a step and still be a dang good Safety.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

Collins' career may be over.

As for Woodson moving to Safety, the reason why older CBs move to Safety is because CBs are faster than Safeties. You could lose a step and still be a dang good Safety.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 


To say nothing of Woody's ability to tackle in the open field and stuff the run. Dude plays like Dez Bishop.
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13 years ago

Collins' career may be over.

As for Woodson moving to Safety, the reason why older CBs move to Safety is because CBs are faster than Safeties. You could lose a step and still be a dang good Safety.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Yep.

My guess is Woodson will be half a step down from Collins, who had incredible closing speed. But he'll be more than half a step up from Charlie "I learned how to tackle from Darren Sharper" Peprah.

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zombieslayer
13 years ago
Woodson does have a good nose for the football so maybe him playing Safety will result in lots of INTs. We hope.

But yeah, he won't be as good as Collins. But he'll be an improvement over Peprah for sure.
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Rockmolder
13 years ago

1. Mike Neal for what we had was a major bust. That was Ted Thompson's fault, and it was ABSOLUTELY HUGE, imo. We need a replacement.

2. We STILL need an OLB opposite of Clay. AMAZING the failure to get that fixed, with all the picks used to try and fix it.

3. Now we need another QB.

4. We need a better running back.

5. We may never see Nick Collins again. We need a safety.

6. I really don't care about all these coaches leaving. Example- What the fuck did Winston Moss exactly friggin' do?

Ted blew it for us this year, imo

We just wasted a regular season, and many of us saw it coming.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



1. Mike Neal, a lot of injuries, still a high ceiling. He's not a bust YET.

2. I just want to add in a little dramatization of the conversations going on the last 2 off-seasons.

Wade, Foster: "O-line, o-line, we need o-line."

Rockmolder: "In my very humble opinion, we could use an outside linebacker, because Clay can't carry this thing all by himself. :)"

Wade, Foster: "Go die in a ditch, we need at least 4 of our 7 picks to be O-line. Marines rule, college professors are great."

To be honest, I just wanted to harp on the OLB situation some more and I don't feel like answering the rest of the points very much, so for what it's worth...

3. No.

4. We could, but we're fine without one, as well.

5. Yes. Peprah, lol.

6. Philbin and Moss both leaving might be somewhat problematic.
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