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Formo
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13 years ago

Don't waist your time. Tiny nuts Sanders never tackled anybody. The blood and guts players prior to the 70's are rolling in their fricken graves.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

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Pack93z
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13 years ago

#22

For Reference... Charles Woodson.

Charles Woodson Tackle Line


Charles Woodson	700	131	13.5	187	4.44

INT Line


INT	Years	Games	Int	TD 		        INT/G	TD/G
Charles Woodson	14	187	49	10		0.27	0.0535

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Pack93z
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13 years ago

#23

As for Williams, he was a semi-finalist last year and I'm betting he makes it within the next 5 years, so he doesn't count (we're talking about Sanders compared to non-HoF players).

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

He doesn't count how? Sanders is in (on first vote) and Allen is not.. well past his five years.

My point.. it was more flash/hype that got Sanders in verse DB talent.

Actually Williams has the more comparable stats.. and has been passed over a number of times.

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Formo
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13 years ago

#24

My point.. it was more flash/hype that got Sanders in verse DB talent.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

But wasn't his flash/hype what scared opposing teams? I'd say so. That would make him a game-changer, thus HoF first ballot worthy.

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DakotaT
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13 years ago

#25

But wasn't his flash/hype what scared opposing teams? I'd say so. That would make him a game-changer, thus HoF first ballot worthy.

Originally Posted by: Formo

Please explain to me how Sniffles Irvin is in the Hall of Fame yet Crybaby Chris still waits? And while you're at it, let me know how Aikman is worthy of the Hall? I mean he was spectacular at handing off the ball to Emmitt, but back it up with stats.

Deion Sanders had a major flaw in his game, tackling, which should have excluded him from being a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Pack93z
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13 years ago

#26

But wasn't his flash/hype what scared opposing teams? I'd say so. That would make him a game-changer, thus HoF first ballot worthy.

Originally Posted by: Formo

So please then argue how Aeneas Williams is not in the hall of fame with comparable numbers on a team with far less talent around him?

Again.. Sanders belongs in the hall.. but without his return game (kick/punt) just on defense alone there are just as good of players out there as CB's that are not in the hall.

Which is the point.. he wasn't the God he is made out to be at CB.

To my knowledge.. the Hall is based on performance.. hype should have little to do with the argument.. but just a the Pro Bowl is nothing more than a popularity contest.. the Hall isn't much different.

It shouldn't be.. but is.

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Formo
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13 years ago

#27

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Who said anything about those 4 players??

Deion Sanders had a major flaw in his game, tackling, which should have excluded him from being a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Tackling wasn't a MAJOR flaw in Neon's game.

Again, I repeat, he changed the way his opposition approached the game, thus gets him in the Hall.

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Formo
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13 years ago

#28

So please then argue how Aeneas Williams is not in the hall of fame with comparable numbers on a team with far less talent around him?

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

For the reasons I posted above. Williams may have been respected by his peers.. But Neon had that 'star power' that literally changed the game. Stats are great and tangible.. but I never once believed they were the only data that determines one's place in the Hall.

Again.. Sanders belongs in the hall.. but without his return game (kick/punt) just on defense alone there are just as good of players out there as CB's that are not in the hall.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

I can't disagree with you too much there. Maybe he wouldn't have been feared as much if he never returned a kick/punt.

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Pack93z
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13 years ago

#29

Again, I repeat, he changed the way his opposition approached the game, thus gets him in the Hall.

Originally Posted by: Formo

Again.. then explain how Williams, or Hayes, Or Walls are not in? Allen apparently doesn't count because he may make it someday.. but that argument fails when you look at the number of times Hayes was a finalist.

Hayes not in and Sanders is in defeats that argument cleanly.

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Formo
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13 years ago

#30

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

Forgive me, they might be beyond my years of watching the NFL.. But Williams/Hayes/Walls/etc are names I don't even know. If they are before my time, then I can't answer you because I've never seen them play and I'll defer that judgement to you. If they were my time, then my point stands.. Because I don't even know them or their play shows you that they weren't anywhere NEAR as feared as Neon.

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