Pack93z vs ZS on Neon Deion· Page 3

Formo
Veteran Member

13 years ago

Don't waist your time. Tiny nuts Sanders never tackled anybody. The blood and guts players prior to the 70's are rolling in their fricken graves.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Speaking of tiny nuts...

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

Pack93z
Select Member

13 years ago

#22

For Reference... Charles Woodson.

Charles Woodson Tackle Line


Charles Woodson	700	131	13.5	187	4.44

INT Line


INT	Years	Games	Int	TD 		        INT/G	TD/G
Charles Woodson	14	187	49	10		0.27	0.0535

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Pack93z
Select Member

13 years ago

#23

As for Williams, he was a semi-finalist last year and I'm betting he makes it within the next 5 years, so he doesn't count (we're talking about Sanders compared to non-HoF players).

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

He doesn't count how? Sanders is in (on first vote) and Allen is not.. well past his five years.

My point.. it was more flash/hype that got Sanders in verse DB talent.

Actually Williams has the more comparable stats.. and has been passed over a number of times.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Formo
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#24

My point.. it was more flash/hype that got Sanders in verse DB talent.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

But wasn't his flash/hype what scared opposing teams? I'd say so. That would make him a game-changer, thus HoF first ballot worthy.

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

DakotaT
Select Member

13 years ago

#25

But wasn't his flash/hype what scared opposing teams? I'd say so. That would make him a game-changer, thus HoF first ballot worthy.

Originally Posted by: Formo

Please explain to me how Sniffles Irvin is in the Hall of Fame yet Crybaby Chris still waits? And while you're at it, let me know how Aikman is worthy of the Hall? I mean he was spectacular at handing off the ball to Emmitt, but back it up with stats.

Deion Sanders had a major flaw in his game, tackling, which should have excluded him from being a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Pack93z
Select Member

13 years ago

#26

But wasn't his flash/hype what scared opposing teams? I'd say so. That would make him a game-changer, thus HoF first ballot worthy.

Originally Posted by: Formo

So please then argue how Aeneas Williams is not in the hall of fame with comparable numbers on a team with far less talent around him?

Again.. Sanders belongs in the hall.. but without his return game (kick/punt) just on defense alone there are just as good of players out there as CB's that are not in the hall.

Which is the point.. he wasn't the God he is made out to be at CB.

To my knowledge.. the Hall is based on performance.. hype should have little to do with the argument.. but just a the Pro Bowl is nothing more than a popularity contest.. the Hall isn't much different.

It shouldn't be.. but is.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Formo
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#27

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Who said anything about those 4 players??

Deion Sanders had a major flaw in his game, tackling, which should have excluded him from being a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Tackling wasn't a MAJOR flaw in Neon's game.

Again, I repeat, he changed the way his opposition approached the game, thus gets him in the Hall.

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

Formo
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#28

So please then argue how Aeneas Williams is not in the hall of fame with comparable numbers on a team with far less talent around him?

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

For the reasons I posted above. Williams may have been respected by his peers.. But Neon had that 'star power' that literally changed the game. Stats are great and tangible.. but I never once believed they were the only data that determines one's place in the Hall.

Again.. Sanders belongs in the hall.. but without his return game (kick/punt) just on defense alone there are just as good of players out there as CB's that are not in the hall.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

I can't disagree with you too much there. Maybe he wouldn't have been feared as much if he never returned a kick/punt.

If my aunt had a penis, she'd be my uncle.

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

Pack93z
Select Member

13 years ago

#29

Again, I repeat, he changed the way his opposition approached the game, thus gets him in the Hall.

Originally Posted by: Formo

Again.. then explain how Williams, or Hayes, Or Walls are not in? Allen apparently doesn't count because he may make it someday.. but that argument fails when you look at the number of times Hayes was a finalist.

Hayes not in and Sanders is in defeats that argument cleanly.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Formo
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#30

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

Forgive me, they might be beyond my years of watching the NFL.. But Williams/Hayes/Walls/etc are names I don't even know. If they are before my time, then I can't answer you because I've never seen them play and I'll defer that judgement to you. If they were my time, then my point stands.. Because I don't even know them or their play shows you that they weren't anywhere NEAR as feared as Neon.

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

packerfanoutwest (3h) : too funny

packerfanoutwest (3h) : Lions QB Jared Goff was the offensive MVP

packerfanoutwest (3h) : for the Pro Bowl, which is flag football

Zero2Cool (4h) : Rather, the murder WAS covered up to prevent ...

Zero2Cool (4h) : JFK murder was a cover-up to prevent war with Cuba/Russia.

Martha Careful (1-Feb) : I have always admired the pluck of the man

Zero2Cool (1-Feb) : I remember thinking he was going to be something good.

Mucky Tundra (1-Feb) : The Dualing Banjo!

Zero2Cool (31-Jan) : Jets have named Chris Banjo as their special teams coordinator, Former Packers player

Zero2Cool (31-Jan) : Jaguars have hired Anthony Campanile as their DC. We lose coach

Zero2Cool (30-Jan) : QB coach Sean Mannion

Zero2Cool (30-Jan) : DL Coach DeMarcus Covington

dfosterf (30-Jan) : from ft Belvoir, Quantico and points south. Somber reminder of this tragedy at Reagan Nat Airport

dfosterf (30-Jan) : So eerily quiet here in Alexandria. I live in the flight path of commercial craft coming from the south and west, plus the military craft

dfosterf (30-Jan) : So eeri

Mucky Tundra (30-Jan) : Now that's a thought, maybe they're looking at the college ranks? Maybe not head coaches but DC/assistant DCs with league experience?

beast (30-Jan) : College Coaches wouldn't want that publicly, as it would hurt recruiting and they might not get the job.

beast (30-Jan) : I thought they were supposed to publicly announce them, at least the NFL ones. Hafley was from college, so I believe different rules.

Mucky Tundra (30-Jan) : Who knows who they're interviewing? I mean, nobody knew about Hafley and then out of nowhere he was hired

beast (30-Jan) : I wonder what's taking so long with hiring a DL coach, 2 of the 3 known to interview have already been hired elsewhere.

Zero2Cool (27-Jan) : Packers coach Matt LaFleur hires Luke Getsy as senior assistant, extends Rich Bisaccia's deal

Zero2Cool (27-Jan) : Chiefs again huh? I guess another Super Bowl I'll be finding something else to do.

Mucky Tundra (27-Jan) : Chiefs Eagles...again...sigh

dfosterf (27-Jan) : Happy Birthday Dave!

Mucky Tundra (27-Jan) : happy birthday dhazer

TheKanataThrilla (26-Jan) : Exactly buck...Washington came up with the ball. It is just a shitty coincidence one week later

buckeyepackfan (26-Jan) : I forgot, they corrected the call a week later. Lol btw HAPPY BIRTHDAY dhazer!

buckeyepackfan (26-Jan) : That brings up the question, why wasn't Nixon down by contact? I think that was the point Kanata was making.

buckeyepackfan (26-Jan) : Turnovers rule, win the turnover battle, win the game.

packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : well, he was

TheKanataThrilla (26-Jan) : Eagles down by contact on the fumble....fuck you NFL

Mucky Tundra (26-Jan) : I think this games over

beast (26-Jan) : Eagles sure get a lot of fumbles on kickoffs

Mucky Tundra (26-Jan) : This game looks too big for Washington

packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : that being said, The Ravens are the Browns

packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : Browns, Dolphins have longest AFC Championship droughts

packerfanoutwest (26-Jan) : As of today, Cowboys have longest NFC Championship drought,

beast (26-Jan) : Someone pointed out, with Raiders hiring Carroll, the division games between Carroll and Jim Harbaugh are back on (who can whine more games)

beast (26-Jan) : I'm confused, Pete Carroll and Brian Schottenheimer? When Todd Monken, Joe Brady, Kellen Moore, Kliff Kingsbury and Zac Robinson are availab

Zero2Cool (25-Jan) : Any reason I'm catching a shot here about my intelligence?

Martha Careful (25-Jan) : thank you Mucky for sticking up for me

Martha Careful (25-Jan) : some of those people are smarter than you zero. However Pete Carroll is not

Mucky Tundra (24-Jan) : Rude!

beast (24-Jan) : Martha? 😋

Zero2Cool (24-Jan) : Raiders hired someone from the elderly home.

dfosterf (24-Jan) : I'm going with a combination of the two.

beast (24-Jan) : Either the Cowboys have no idea what they're doing, or they're targeting their former OC, currently the Eagles OC

Zero2Cool (23-Jan) : Fake news. Cowboys say no

Zero2Cool (23-Jan) : Mystery candidate in the Cowboys head coaching search believed to be Packers ST Coordinator Rich Bisaccia.

beast (23-Jan) : Also why do both NYC teams have absolutely horrible OL for over a decade?

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

38 - 10

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

30 - 17

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

31 - 34

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

30 - 13

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

34 - 0

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM

Vikings

25 - 27

Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

22 - 24

Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM

Eagles

10 - 22