What we need is more inside pressure. We need Mike Neal and in a way... we kind of need Jenkins back. My opinion of course.

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I'm an acupuncturist dude. I agree wholeheartedly. YO NICK, COME SEE ME!

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Here we go again ... I hope this will not start a chain reaction of injuries again ...

What pisses me off the most that we keep hearing that it's no biggie and that it's day to day and then we hear the news that it's out for season.

Pisses the hell out of me!

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[mfing] to the injury bug.

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Well - when a orthopedist (assuming he is the one in charge of packers players) - looks at a person it is based on his knowledge of what to do with them. And they are trained in surgical procedures.

It appears the nfl tries to be deceptive with their reporting of injuries (for whatever reason) - like back spasms = lower back disc bulge, neck stinger = nerve inpingement which again is often caused by a disc bulge.

Im a chiropractor and Id say 60%+ of the people I see their symptoms are from a disc bulge. If Id tell them 'oh your bleeped your going to have to quit work or your activities' Id probably be out of a job or IMO doing the patient wrong.

I dont know much about collins - I just dont want to see him go to the wayside like some of these players seem to do with IMO injuries that could get helped.

and ya I help people with disc bulges all the time ... although most are not athletes but IMO if they were they would probably recover much quicker. Not to say these people dont have to be careful and do certain things to help themselves...

then again I have not seen the mri - but either way there are things that can help disc bulges which does not involve surgery.

Isnt that how it goes that ... out for season then surgery then maybe play or not then perhaps done?

have we found out what they are doing with Collins' roster spot?

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They haven't put him on IR yet, however, they did replace Chastin West's position on the practice squad.

09/21/2011 DL Johnny Jones signed to practice squad

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lol almost thought you typed johnny jolly there ... he was pretty good thou; wonder if it was worth it for him to be doing that what was it? ...

Nick Collins' agent, Alan Herman, said Collins will see spine specialist at Hospital For Special Surgery in New York City later this week.

-jasonjwilde

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Yikes. Surgery. Man I hope he recovers fully and can return next season.