evad04
13 years ago
Sacks are great but not worth much unless they happen on 3rd down. We need to reign in any momentum shifting special teams plays, keep a watchful eye on Forte, and hopefully force a few "Cutlers" (another name for Cutler-esque boneheaded throws). Offensively, a balanced attack is always the best way to beat Chicago. Grant/Starks (or Starks/Grant, since their order is of utmost significance to some on these boards) need to pound dat ... rock. Get Finley involved to stretch that pesky Cover 2. Keep Rodgers relatively safe from Peppers and Co.

Should be a frustrating game, as it always is against the Bears. But Green Bay is gonna win this one.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

Sacks are great but not worth much unless they happen on 3rd down. We need to reign in any momentum shifting special teams plays, keep a watchful eye on Forte, and hopefully force a few "Cutlers" (another name for Cutler-esque boneheaded throws). Offensively, a balanced attack is always the best way to beat Chicago. Grant/Starks (or Starks/Grant, since their order is of utmost significance to some on these boards) need to pound dat ... rock. Get Finley involved to stretch that pesky Cover 2. Keep Rodgers relatively safe from Peppers and Co.

Should be a frustrating game, as it always is against the Bears. But Green Bay is gonna win this one.

Originally Posted by: evad04 




We don't score alot of points against the Bears. I think this is because they are good at limiting big plays. So the way we can beat them is to move the chains in traditional WCO fashion. The running game is gonna help ALOT. So will having Finley back. Finley and Ryan Taylor!

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Laser Gunns
13 years ago
Martz is going to go after Peprah all day,

^this is the key^

deep passes on our FS is going to leave Cutler available to a decent pass rush, AND they are without Carimi which makes this scenario even better for us [aiee]

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evad04
13 years ago

We don't score alot of points against the Bears. I think this is because they are good at limiting big plays. So the way we can beat them is to move the chains in traditional WCO fashion. The running game is gonna help ALOT. So will having Finley back. Finley and Ryan Taylor!

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Someone take a snapshot of this page, because for once Nerdmann and I agree. Well, mostly. The only thing I'd tweak is that in basic football philosophy the Tampa 2 defense (Bears D) was designed to stop the WCO. That doesn't mean that screens and slants aren't or can't be effective -- or that the Bears solely run a Tampa 2. It does mean, I think, that Green Bay needs to vary their level of attack. One way to really hurt a Tampa 2 is to use the TE up the seam -- much like how Green Bay used Finley when they played in the early part of last season. But you can't throw downfield every play, obviously, so they need to run a variable of routes that develop at different levels of the defense. And of course, get the run game going.
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evad04
13 years ago

Martz is going to go after Peprah all day,

^this is the key^

deep passes on our FS is going to leave Cutler available to a decent pass rush, AND they are without Carimi which makes this scenario even better for us [aiee]

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar 


There's a pretty good chance that Peprah will fulfill the same role he did last year, which was more of the SS (though in our defense the safeties native positions are fairly interchangeable). At the very least, you won't see Peprah on an island with his limited athleticism as his only weapon. Probably, that is.
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Tezzy
13 years ago
Going to be an interesting match-up. Lovie is already having his talks with Martz after this weekend about their play call balance. So I would expect to see more carries from Forte than what they did against the Saints. Glad our run D is looking better. Forte is the key, the kid is over 50% of their offensive production. Don't know if we can get away with something like Woodson spying on him all game and let Shields run with Hester with safety over the top and Tramon lock down Roy Boy/Knox. And with the situation the Bears are trudging through with their OL, I will be extremely disappointed if we don't keep Cutler's average of being sacked 5+ times going.

I don't see many quick throws coming from Cutler except for the little bubble screens they do to Hester as their offense isn't built for that kind of attack and their receivers in particular cannot get off bump and run coverage worth a damn. The Martz receiving route tree isn't worth a damn if the ball has to come out quick. Lets get in their face and pressure them from the first snap through our victory formation.
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evad04
13 years ago
I agree with Tezzy, except for the second part. My prediction is that this is the week where we see Chicago come to reality with the craptasticness of their offensive line. Two weeks in and Cutler is taking a beating. They WILL scheme quicker developing plays into their gameplan. Not sure whether they will be effective, though. I also might be the only person that thinks the Bears have good depth at WR. That doesn't mean they have anyone particularly good, but there's nice balance at having a burner (Knox), a couple of good possession guys (Williams and Bennett). Forte is functionally a receiver based on how many freaking catches he gets.

It will be interesting to see how Capers/Martz round 4 goes.
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Tezzy
13 years ago

I agree with Tezzy, except for the second part. My prediction is that this is the week where we see Chicago come to reality with the craptasticness of their offensive line. Two weeks in and Cutler is taking a beating. They WILL scheme quicker developing plays into their gameplan. Not sure whether they will be effective, though. I also might be the only person that thinks the Bears have good depth at WR. That doesn't mean they have anyone particularly good, but there's nice balance at having a burner (Knox), a couple of good possession guys (Williams and Bennett). Forte is functionally a receiver based on how many freaking catches he gets.

It will be interesting to see how Capers/Martz round 4 goes.

Originally Posted by: evad04 



It would behoove them to adjust their passing attack. It will come down to how quickly can Lovie temper Martz's ego to actually change his gameplan. It took until week 9 of last season. And yes, you may be the only person that thinks they have good depth at WR. Only team that I think has worse depth is the Broncos since they needed Tebow to play wideout this weekend since they were down to two receivers active after an injury happened.


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evad04
13 years ago

And yes, you may be the only person that thinks they have good depth at WR. Only team that I think has worse depth is the Broncos since they needed Tebow to play wideout this weekend since they were down to two receivers active after an injury happened.

Originally Posted by: Tezzy 


Hah, thought so. I want to make clear that I wouldn't take any of those receivers before I'd take someone like James Jones, for example. So for the sake of argument, Jones>any Bears receiver. If I could arbitrarily rank Jones from 1-10, I'd rate him at a 7.

Looking at the Bears receiving core, they are a bunch of 6s, again using my arbitrary ranking system. But that's depth. No one is great, but there is very little difference in overall ability between Knox, Williams, Bennett, and Sanzenbacher. Most teams want to have that true #1, but are lucky to have anyone competent playing the #4 WR spot. The Bears have that competency. Totally unflashy, ultimately mediocre ... but relatively deep, and with complimentary skillsets (possession guys, speed guys, slot guys).
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Tezzy
13 years ago

Hah, thought so. I want to make clear that I wouldn't take any of those receivers before I'd take someone like James Jones, for example. So for the sake of argument, Jones>any Bears receiver. If I could arbitrarily rank Jones from 1-10, I'd rate him at a 7.

Looking at the Bears receiving core, they are a bunch of 6s, again using my arbitrary ranking system. But that's depth. No one is great, but there is very little difference in overall ability between Knox, Williams, Bennett, and Sanzenbacher. Most teams want to have that true #1, but are lucky to have anyone competent playing the #4 WR spot. The Bears have that competency. Totally unflashy, ultimately mediocre ... but relatively deep, and with complimentary skillsets (possession guys, speed guys, slot guys).

Originally Posted by: evad04 



Definitely dangerous when they get the ball in their hands, they just have a hard time getting to that point =)

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