Formo
13 years ago

Any chance you don't have adequate talent on the team as a direct result of the Vikes and Favre sticking it to the Packers?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Not as a direct result. It's not like the Vikings didn't have any draft picks the past few years or didn't make any moves in free agency. You are reaching if you think that.

The fact is, the Vikings held a pretty good SD team within check pretty good, despite McNabb's and the offense's willingness to play weak. Offense should get better with the new system/talent getting used to it.

Seems to me Screaming Lord Byron's raise last season could have been used to resign some young talent.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



No clue who you are referring to, so 🤷
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rabidgopher04
13 years ago
The first offensive play yesterday for the Vikings was on par for the organization. When I saw McNabb throw that pick I thought, "that's so Vikings." I say bring out Ponder or Webb. Why this rent-a-quarterback stuff all the time?
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TheKanataThrilla
13 years ago

The first offensive play yesterday for the Vikings was on par for the organization. When I saw McNabb throw that pick I thought, "that's so Vikings." I say bring out Ponder or Webb. Why this rent-a-quarterback stuff all the time?

Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04 



For some reason, people are still of the opinion this is a "win it now" team. I don't see it, but I'll sure enjoy the ride while they sell off draft picks and stall the development of their younger talent while maintaining that mindset.
Formo
13 years ago

For some reason, people are still of the opinion this is a "win it now" team. I don't see it, but I'll sure enjoy the ride while they sell off draft picks and stall the development of their younger talent while maintaining that mindset.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



And how exactly are they stalling the development of Ponder/Webb? Throwing them to the wolves isn't necessarily the ideal way to fashion a QB (i.e. one Aaron Rodgers).

This rent-a-QB route taken this year was to hopefully keep the Vikings competitive in the division and to help mold and mature their stable of young-uns that are currently ridin' the pine.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Best thing for Ponder is to sit and watch for a season.
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DakotaT
13 years ago

Best thing for Ponder is to sit and watch for a season.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




I disagree, the best thing for Ponder would be to spend as little of his signing bonus or guaranteed money as possible.
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13 years ago

The McNabb hate comment wasn't directed at anyone in general. He just seems to be one of the more disliked QBs in the NFL. That's what I don't get.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Since I'm one of those McNabb dislikers, let me try and explain why.

It's basically an accumulated belief that he's insincere, a manipulator, an image-mongerer. I simply can't take anything he says as un-calculated. And I think he's a whiner. I just wouldn't trust him with a Weimar mark. He strikes me as insincere as a career politician, someone who says in public what he thinks will help his image most, while saying and doing exactly the opposite in private.

Now, be clear. I have no personal experience with him. I've never met the man, never talked with him or people who know and deal with him. And probably never will. So I have no basis save my own observational skills as a TV watcher and my "gut". I'm not saying he's all of these things in reality. I'm not saying he is any of these things in reality. I can't.

It's just what I feel.

Right or wrong, I "dislike" (I won't use the word "hate", but I do dislike) athletes who I perceive of low character, and among the character flaws I dislike most are those of image-mongering and general suckupery. And, right or wrong, that's the labels I put on McNabb.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

I just wouldn't trust him with a Weimar mark.

Originally Posted by: Wade 


Now there is an obscure allusion. You really are a dork, you know that?[grin1]
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

And how exactly are they stalling the development of Ponder/Webb? Throwing them to the wolves isn't necessarily the ideal way to fashion a QB (i.e. one Aaron Rodgers).

This rent-a-QB route taken this year was to hopefully keep the Vikings competitive in the division and to help mold and mature their stable of young-uns that are currently ridin' the pine.

Originally Posted by: Formo 



Troy Aikman got pounded before the Cowboys bought that line with the Walker trade.

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13 years ago
For every Aikman that develops under fire.. there 2 or 3 QB's that melt because they were inserted in before they were ready.

IMO.. the greater chance of success comes from allowing a young QB to develop under the tutelage of another.. then excel when ready. Case in point.. Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers. Smith has been brow beat into a shell of the QB coming out of Utah.. while Rodgers has prospered being allowed to develop behind another. Now.. we can't say that is the only aspect that determines.. but I think it increased the probability that a young player will develop and prosper.

Confidence plays such a vital role, IMO, that you preserve that until they are ready to perform.

After watch Ponder on the roller coaster at FSU.. he isn't ready.. honestly I think he was a reach where they drafted him. Tell will tell that story though.
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