gbguy20
13 years ago

Does "all ears" = "Looking To Trade" ? ...

I can understand the idea of wanting to trade Barnett but I don't think it's as simple as some make it out to be. Like if the Packers trade Barnett then who's the #1 back-up at ILB?

Chillar? Is he healthy after he's 3rd shoulder surgery? Is he good enough to step up as a starter if needed?

Brad Jones? Is he healthy? Is he going to be moved to ILB or not? If yes, would he just replace Chillar as a coverage LB? Or could he step up and be a started if needed?

Robert Francois, D.J. Smith, Matt Wilhelm or Poppinga? ...

I think Poppinga in his prime would of made a good physical 3-4 ILB (in Hawk's role) but he's past his prime and doesn't seem to be as physical as he used to be and he's also going off injury.


Thompson has shown in the past to keep a vet like KGB or Bubba Franks at a big price if they're willing to be a team guy and keep helping the team even if it's only in a small role. It's possible Barnett could stay IF he can be a team guy. If he can't then chances go up he's traded. But I think a lot of that will be dealt with in behind the door talks before training camp.

Originally Posted by: beast 



basically agree with this post. I have no issues keeping barnett, because as we saw last season solid depth is very important. but then again, if we absolutely need to get rid of him to free up cap space so we can shore up other areas, so be it.
BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.
beast
13 years ago

Ever since the Packers got Barnett I always thought he'd do better on the edge than inside because of his speed. Then someone pointed out that Nick Barnett can not shed a block even if he was doused in Vaseline.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Of course he can't... but outside at least he can set the edge if he can't get off the block so to speak.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



But Barnett doesn't set the edge ether... he avoids blockers as much as possible... and that's why he's a bad fit for the 3-4 defense... because he won't or can't set the edge nor attack and shed the blocker... he'll just avoid the block and try to out move the guy which at times makes it easier to take him out of the play.

A lot of AFC teams use 3-4 so it might be hard to trade him to the AFC but there are a couple of teams that might want him. Jags could use another LB if they lose one or more of their own, and he'd know Kampman. Broncos are going back to the 4-3... I think they got a decent MLB but they might need a 4-3 OLB and Jason Hunter was there last year.
UserPostedImage
Pack93z
13 years ago
I knew I should have used that damn sarcasm tag.. lol.



"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

I knew I should have used that damn sarcasm tag.. lol.


Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


[stupid]


[happy]
UserPostedImage
beast
13 years ago

I knew I should have used that damn sarcasm tag.. lol.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Yeah I missed the sarcasm completely...
UserPostedImage
Yerko
13 years ago
I really wish Barnett would take a role at OLB...that would be a pretty sight...

Barnett---Hawk---Bishop---Matthews
UserPostedImage
Mckennj3
13 years ago
The only time I see Barnett playing outside is in the new Madden 12. Doesn't suit his style and he's proven to be ineffective when asked to take on those roles. Speaking of madden, why don't we bunch Barnett with Flynn and take their 2nd and 3rd. Or a starting caliber guard?
We are born naked, wet and hungry. Then things get worse.
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member Topic Starter
13 years ago
rumors rumors rumors. 


The Packers are looking to cut costs, and the Chiefs have the money to spend to bring in the experienced, talented linebacker.

Follow @sbnkansascity on Twitter, and Like SB Nation Kansas City on Facebook.

Jul 25, 2011 - The NFL's trading season is about to begin with permission given by Tuesday morning for teams to begin to move players like Kevin Kolb and Kyle Orton. Several players have been written about in terms of possible trade options this NFL offseason, but one match between teams and needs that has yet to be made could be one of the most valuable. Specifically, a deal between the Kansas City Chiefs and Green Bay Packers involving Nick Barnett that makes as much sense as any.

For the defending Super Bowl Champions, there's a need to get under the salary cap, as they're currently right at the threshold. Dan Pompeii lists the reasons why the Packers are eager to get rid of Barnett in his latest column at the National Football Post:

The Packers are all ears when it comes to talking about trading Nick Barnett. Moving him would save them more than $4 million on the salary cap, and they could use that space. Barnett is a versatile, valuable defender who can start in multiple schemes and at multiple positions, but he’s now behind Desmond Bishop and A.J. Hawk on the Packers’ depth chart. If the Packers can’t get what they want for Barnett before camp or early in camp, they may hang onto him to see if teams increase their offers as camp and preseason go on. Releasing him also could be an option at some point.


For the Chiefs, there's a need all through the linebacking corps for stronger competition. Derrick Johnson certainly turned a corner last season to become one of the team's most valuable defeders, and Jovan Belcher held down the other starting ILB spot -- an impressive feat for an undrafted free agent. Yet Belcher hasn't played well enough to stave off all threats of competition and Barnett's playoff experience and playing ability would definitely provide value on all fronts.

Perhaps the one factor that makes Barnett to the Chiefs a win-win is the Chiefs need to spend money and the Packers need to shed it. The Chiefs have well over $30 million to spend and linebacker is a spot of need. The move for Barnett would fill a hole without having to worry about other suitors. It's uncertain what the package would have to be, but perhaps a fourth or fifth round choice in 2012 would be enough to get a deal finished.


UserPostedImage
bozz_2006
13 years ago
The new "salary floor" will certainly make things a little more interesting this year as the low-budget teams are forced to spend money. I'm thinking it'll open up trades that wouldn't have happened if the rules hadn't changed. Get yer popcorn ready!
UserPostedImage
Tezzy
13 years ago

I really wish Barnett would take a role at OLB...that would be a pretty sight...

Barnett---Hawk---Bishop---Matthews

Originally Posted by: G-Force 



I think that is a horrid sight. Barnett at OLB would be a disaster in the run game and he adds no value to the pass rush unless he has learned some new skills during his rehab. I wouldn't even blink starting Zombo over Barnett opposite Matthews.

On top of every beard grows a man.
"The Bears are shell-shocked... and it's breaking my heart."
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (38m) : But to say they are in is looking past the Saints
Mucky Tundra (38m) : That said, their odds are very favorable with a >99% chance of making the playoffs entering this week's games
Mucky Tundra (39m) : Packers are not in and have not clinched a playoff spot.
buckeyepackfan (1h) : Packers are in, they need to keep winning to improve their seed#.
Mucky Tundra (10h) : Getting help would have been nice, but helping ourselves should always be the plan
beast (10h) : Too bad Seahawks couldn't beat Vikings
bboystyle (10h) : We just need to win Monday night and were in
Mucky Tundra (14h) : Or ties, but let's be real here
Mucky Tundra (14h) : Other scenario was Falcons+Rams losses
Mucky Tundra (14h) : Needed a Falcons loss for a Seahawk loss to clinch
buckeyepackfan (14h) : Am I wring in saying if Tge Vikings beat The Seahawks, The Packers clinch?
Mucky Tundra (21-Dec) : Agreed; you stinks
Zero2Cool (21-Dec) : I'm not beating anyone. I stinks.
Mucky Tundra (21-Dec) : rough injury for tank dell. guy can't catch abreak
beast (21-Dec) : So far the college playoffs have sucked... One team absolutely dominates the other
beast (21-Dec) : Well even if you weren't positive towards a guy, you wouldn't nessarily want to tell the media that (if they don't know about it)
Martha Careful (21-Dec) : I think MLF want Love to look past the end half issues, and feel good about his play. Our coaches generally keep a very positive tone.
beast (21-Dec) : I think a great running game will do that for most QBs
packerfanoutwest (21-Dec) : Coach Matt LaFleur has said quarterback Jordan Love is playing the best football of his career.
beast (21-Dec) : Oh, that's how you keep beating buckeye, with cheating
Zero2Cool (20-Dec) : There is a rule that if your name starts with 'b' you lose 15 points. Hey, I don't make the rules, I just enforce them!
wpr (20-Dec) : and then there is Beast. Running away with it all.
beast (20-Dec) : As of tonight, 3 way tie for 2nd in Pick'em, that battle is interesting!
beast (20-Dec) : Lions vs Vikings could be the main last game as it could determine division winners or #1 vs #2 seed
Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : Or if KC needs to win for the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : Right now it looks like the only prime worthy games are Det-Minny and KC-Denver (if Denver can clinch a wild card spot)
Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : The entirety of week 18 being listed as flex is weird
Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Matt LaFleur today says unequivocally "Ted Thompson had nothing to do with the drafting of Jordan Love."
Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Apparently, the editing is what pieces comments together. That Ted thing ... fake news.
Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : LaFleur "opportunity that Ted Thompson thought was too good to pass up"
Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Jordan Love pick was Ted Thompson's idea.
Mucky Tundra (19-Dec) : Kyle Shanahan on signing De'Vondre Campbell as a FA last offseason: “We obviously made a mistake.”
packerfanoutwest (19-Dec) : Alexander’s last season with GB
Martha Careful (18-Dec) : if I were a professional athlete, I would probably look to see who the agent is for Kirk Cousins and then use him
beast (18-Dec) : $100 million fully guaranteed Kirk Cousins gets benched for rookie
Mucky Tundra (18-Dec) : a lower case b
Mucky Tundra (18-Dec) : The real lie is how beast capitalized his name in his message while it's normally spelled with
packerfanoutwest (18-Dec) : haha that's a lie
beast (17-Dec) : Despite what lies other might tell, Beast didn't hate the Winter Warnings, it felt refreshing to Beast for some reason.
Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : whiteout uniforms in general are pretty lame and weak. NFL greed at it's worst
Martha Careful (17-Dec) : The Viking uniforms, the whiteout uniforms specifically absolutely suck
beast (17-Dec) : Thanks Zero2Cool, looks a lot better now
beast (17-Dec) : Seems like someone has a crush on me, can't stop talking about me
Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : Should be gooder now. The forum default theme went to goofy land.
Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : What the hell
packerfanoutwest (17-Dec) : yeah beast hates the Winter Warning Unies
Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : Okay I'm glad to know it's not just something happening to me lol
Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : Zero, did you copy the Packers uniforms from last night and white out the board?
beast (16-Dec) : Oh crap, is the board going to the Winter Warning Uniforms too?!? It's all white on white right now!
Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : WR Odell Beckham Jr is officially a free agent after clearing waivers.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

22-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / packerfanoutwest

19-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Dec / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

18-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

17-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

17-Dec / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

16-Dec / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Mucky Tundra

16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

16-Dec / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.