gbguy20
13 years ago

Does "all ears" = "Looking To Trade" ? ...

I can understand the idea of wanting to trade Barnett but I don't think it's as simple as some make it out to be. Like if the Packers trade Barnett then who's the #1 back-up at ILB?

Chillar? Is he healthy after he's 3rd shoulder surgery? Is he good enough to step up as a starter if needed?

Brad Jones? Is he healthy? Is he going to be moved to ILB or not? If yes, would he just replace Chillar as a coverage LB? Or could he step up and be a started if needed?

Robert Francois, D.J. Smith, Matt Wilhelm or Poppinga? ...

I think Poppinga in his prime would of made a good physical 3-4 ILB (in Hawk's role) but he's past his prime and doesn't seem to be as physical as he used to be and he's also going off injury.


Thompson has shown in the past to keep a vet like KGB or Bubba Franks at a big price if they're willing to be a team guy and keep helping the team even if it's only in a small role. It's possible Barnett could stay IF he can be a team guy. If he can't then chances go up he's traded. But I think a lot of that will be dealt with in behind the door talks before training camp.

Originally Posted by: beast 



basically agree with this post. I have no issues keeping barnett, because as we saw last season solid depth is very important. but then again, if we absolutely need to get rid of him to free up cap space so we can shore up other areas, so be it.
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beast
13 years ago

Ever since the Packers got Barnett I always thought he'd do better on the edge than inside because of his speed. Then someone pointed out that Nick Barnett can not shed a block even if he was doused in Vaseline.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Of course he can't... but outside at least he can set the edge if he can't get off the block so to speak.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



But Barnett doesn't set the edge ether... he avoids blockers as much as possible... and that's why he's a bad fit for the 3-4 defense... because he won't or can't set the edge nor attack and shed the blocker... he'll just avoid the block and try to out move the guy which at times makes it easier to take him out of the play.

A lot of AFC teams use 3-4 so it might be hard to trade him to the AFC but there are a couple of teams that might want him. Jags could use another LB if they lose one or more of their own, and he'd know Kampman. Broncos are going back to the 4-3... I think they got a decent MLB but they might need a 4-3 OLB and Jason Hunter was there last year.
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13 years ago
I knew I should have used that damn sarcasm tag.. lol.



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13 years ago

I knew I should have used that damn sarcasm tag.. lol.


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beast
13 years ago

I knew I should have used that damn sarcasm tag.. lol.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Yeah I missed the sarcasm completely...
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Yerko
13 years ago
I really wish Barnett would take a role at OLB...that would be a pretty sight...

Barnett---Hawk---Bishop---Matthews
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Mckennj3
13 years ago
The only time I see Barnett playing outside is in the new Madden 12. Doesn't suit his style and he's proven to be ineffective when asked to take on those roles. Speaking of madden, why don't we bunch Barnett with Flynn and take their 2nd and 3rd. Or a starting caliber guard?
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13 years ago
rumors rumors rumors. 


The Packers are looking to cut costs, and the Chiefs have the money to spend to bring in the experienced, talented linebacker.

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Jul 25, 2011 - The NFL's trading season is about to begin with permission given by Tuesday morning for teams to begin to move players like Kevin Kolb and Kyle Orton. Several players have been written about in terms of possible trade options this NFL offseason, but one match between teams and needs that has yet to be made could be one of the most valuable. Specifically, a deal between the Kansas City Chiefs and Green Bay Packers involving Nick Barnett that makes as much sense as any.

For the defending Super Bowl Champions, there's a need to get under the salary cap, as they're currently right at the threshold. Dan Pompeii lists the reasons why the Packers are eager to get rid of Barnett in his latest column at the National Football Post:

The Packers are all ears when it comes to talking about trading Nick Barnett. Moving him would save them more than $4 million on the salary cap, and they could use that space. Barnett is a versatile, valuable defender who can start in multiple schemes and at multiple positions, but he’s now behind Desmond Bishop and A.J. Hawk on the Packers’ depth chart. If the Packers can’t get what they want for Barnett before camp or early in camp, they may hang onto him to see if teams increase their offers as camp and preseason go on. Releasing him also could be an option at some point.


For the Chiefs, there's a need all through the linebacking corps for stronger competition. Derrick Johnson certainly turned a corner last season to become one of the team's most valuable defeders, and Jovan Belcher held down the other starting ILB spot -- an impressive feat for an undrafted free agent. Yet Belcher hasn't played well enough to stave off all threats of competition and Barnett's playoff experience and playing ability would definitely provide value on all fronts.

Perhaps the one factor that makes Barnett to the Chiefs a win-win is the Chiefs need to spend money and the Packers need to shed it. The Chiefs have well over $30 million to spend and linebacker is a spot of need. The move for Barnett would fill a hole without having to worry about other suitors. It's uncertain what the package would have to be, but perhaps a fourth or fifth round choice in 2012 would be enough to get a deal finished.


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bozz_2006
13 years ago
The new "salary floor" will certainly make things a little more interesting this year as the low-budget teams are forced to spend money. I'm thinking it'll open up trades that wouldn't have happened if the rules hadn't changed. Get yer popcorn ready!
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Tezzy
13 years ago

I really wish Barnett would take a role at OLB...that would be a pretty sight...

Barnett---Hawk---Bishop---Matthews

Originally Posted by: G-Force 



I think that is a horrid sight. Barnett at OLB would be a disaster in the run game and he adds no value to the pass rush unless he has learned some new skills during his rehab. I wouldn't even blink starting Zombo over Barnett opposite Matthews.

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