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13 years ago
Packers Looking To Trade Nick Barnett: National Football Post  

With the lockout close to over, rumors about potential trades, cuts, and free agent signings are starting to spread across the traditional media and social media like wildfire. One such rumor about a particular Green Bay Packers player is hardly a juicy one, as it's something we've been speculating about since February, but it's still worth noting that the Packers are looking into trading Nick Barnett. Dan Pompei addresses this issue and many others in his NFP Sunday Blitz post, which is worth reading independent of the Barnett news.

Last season, Nick Barnett went out with an injury after playing just four games for the Packers. Without him in the lineup, Desmond Bishop thrived and, as you all know, the Packers won the Super Bowl. The Packers have also made great strides towards filling their roster with high-quality character guys who don't punch women outside of night clubs, which Barnett has a mild reputation for.

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On top of his questionable actions in his personal life - which are, admittedly, mild by NFL standards - the Packers owe Barnett a lot of money. The combination of the personnel, money, and character factors might cause Barnett to be shown the door shortly after the lockout ends. From the NFP post: 

The Packers are all ears when it comes to talking about trading Nick Barnett. Moving him would save them more than $4 million on the salary cap, and they could use that space. Barnett is a versatile, valuable defender who can start in multiple schemes and at multiple positions, but he's now behind Desmond Bishop and A.J. Hawk on the Packers' depth chart. If the Packers can't get what they want for Barnett before camp or early in camp, they may hang onto him to see if teams increase their offers as camp and preseason go on. Releasing him also could be an option at some point.



Wow, releasing him is an option, even after the draft and with a compressed free agency period coming up? How the mighty have fallen.


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beast
13 years ago
Does "all ears" = "Looking To Trade" ? ...

I can understand the idea of wanting to trade Barnett but I don't think it's as simple as some make it out to be. Like if the Packers trade Barnett then who's the #1 back-up at ILB?

Chillar? Is he healthy after he's 3rd shoulder surgery? Is he good enough to step up as a starter if needed?

Brad Jones? Is he healthy? Is he going to be moved to ILB or not? If yes, would he just replace Chillar as a coverage LB? Or could he step up and be a started if needed?

Robert Francois, D.J. Smith, Matt Wilhelm or Poppinga? ...

I think Poppinga in his prime would of made a good physical 3-4 ILB (in Hawk's role) but he's past his prime and doesn't seem to be as physical as he used to be and he's also going off injury.


Thompson has shown in the past to keep a vet like KGB or Bubba Franks at a big price if they're willing to be a team guy and keep helping the team even if it's only in a small role. It's possible Barnett could stay IF he can be a team guy. If he can't then chances go up he's traded. But I think a lot of that will be dealt with in behind the door talks before training camp.
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nerdmann
13 years ago
Chillar, Jones, Smith.
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Greg C.
13 years ago
If Barnett is gone, the #1 backup at ILB could be Chillar, Francois, Wilhelm, or some new guy that they bring in. Ted has enough confidence in his ability to find good backups that he's not going to pay millions of dollars for a veteran backup. I doubt that any GM would do that.
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porky88
13 years ago
Barnett is a very emotional player. Regardless of what he says, I hardly doubt he would be content with his role as a backup. He's also making four or five million this year. If he doesn't restructure his contract, a trade is likely, and I think Green Bay gets something for him.

As far as depth goes, I think Brandon Chiller is going to be just fine as the third ILB. Keep in mind; he played that role in 09 and did it very well. Also, special teams obviously play a role. Is Barnett really going to make an impact on special teams?

I think the numbers start to catch up. Chiller is cheaper and has a defined role. The other spot(s) probably needs to go to a special teams contributor. The majority of the factors point toward Barnett not playing for the Packers this season.
13 years ago
His salary makes him difficult to trade.

Getting anything would be a good thing.

If released, the Lions would sure want him.
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dhpackr
13 years ago
why would any team trade for a player who is going to be released?

why can't Bishop and Barnett compete for a starting job?

IMO... Barnett is going to make $4 million as a back up ILB on the Packers, and be an impact player. I think Barnett's ability to run players down in between the sidelines will allow him to make the GB roster.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

why would any team trade for a player who is going to be released?

why can't Bishop and Barnett compete for a starting job?

IMO... Barnett is going to make $4 million as a back up ILB on the Packers, and be an impact player. I think Barnett's ability to run players down in between the sidelines will allow him to make the GB roster.

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To ensure they GET the player they want. Obviously.

Good question, and I don't think anyone said it couldn't happen.
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DakotaT
13 years ago

To ensure they GET the player they want. Obviously.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



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I don't think Uncle Ted will cut him for cap space. He will want some value, and I don't think we give him away on the cheap either.

I do think Barnett would have a hard time accepting a back up role.
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DanJustDan29
13 years ago
I think he have enough quality LB that trading Barnett would not hurt.
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