zombieslayer
13 years ago

Anybody that thinks Emmitt is the better back doesn't know shit about football. For most of his career, he wasn't even touched until he had already gained 3 yards.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Yeah. That was the point I was making. His OL was superior. Best OL I've ever seen (arguably Tom Brady's was up there too).

The other thing - best LB I've ever seen was LT. Yes, I know he's a jerk but that has nothing to do with his football performance. LT said that the hardest guy to tackle was Barry Sanders.
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13 years ago
I voted for a tie. that way both players get a chance to run the ball.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
The only way Emmitt was able to take rushing title was to play 4 years after he was washed up. He averaged 750 yards a year for 4 years to do it. If quit when he was washed up, he would have about 3000 fewer yards.

Emmitt's average was 4.2 per behind the best line in the NFL. That is good enough for about 170th all time. He was handed 3 of them and fell down for 1.2 per. Barry was handed -2 per and was able to end up with a 5 per average.

To me, that makes Barry 5.8 yards per carry better than Emmitt.

However I would take a running game like Dallas' over a running game like Detroit's. Obviously because of the rings. Not as obviously because when you have a breakaway back, you have feast or famine.

I look at AP of the Vikings for an example. Before last year, he was averaging about a 20+ yard run per game and about a 40+ run every other game. If he averaged about 24 carries and 100 yards a game, he would have 40+% of his yards in 1.5 carries a game. Leaving an average of less than 60 yards on 22.5 carries for the rest of the time.

The problem is, a few good runs a game and the rest being under 2.66 per per makes it hard to sustain drives, wear down defenses and control the clock. A couple of big gains and the rest are 3 and out. And with a break away back, you have to keep feeding him to get your moneys worth out of him. He needs that 20 plus carries to get the production. So you are stuck with the running game, waiting for that 6% chance that this is the one he breaks.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

I look at AP of the Vikings for an example. Before last year, he was averaging about a 20+ yard run per game and about a 40+ run every other game. If he averaged about 24 carries and 100 yards a game, he would have 40+% of his yards in 1.5 carries a game. Leaving an average of less than 60 yards on 22.5 carries for the rest of the time.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



http://www.nfl.com/player/adrianpeterson/2507164/careerstats 

Excluding '10 ...
40+ runs, more like one every third game. 🙂 (46 games with 11 runs 40+ )

I noticed a little trend with his longer runs and having more fumbles too.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

http://www.nfl.com/player/adrianpeterson/2507164/careerstats

Excluding '10 ...
40+ runs, more like one every third game. 🙂 (46 games with 11 runs 40+ )

I noticed a little trend with his longer runs and having more fumbles too.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I also didn't include the + yardage. His actual average for the 20+ and the 40+ runs are probably quite a bit higher than 20 and 40 yards.

Being careful last year probably hurt his break away ability.
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