Jon305
13 years ago

Am I crazy to think that, personal preferences aside, it would be in the best interest of the franchise to cut Driver lose and re-sign Jones? Jones is likely to have better numbers than Driver anyway next season if he comes back, and he will be around for several more years.

I know this isn't a popular stance, but if it comes down to letting Jones go just to keep Driver for one more decent season likely, it would seem to make sense.

Thoughts?

"doddpower" wrote:




that actually makes sense as much as I hate to say it.

But remembering his awesome play against 49ers makes me still want him around
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
The statistics wpr cites don't include the 2010 season.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

The statistics wpr cites don't include the 2010 season.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

That's correct.
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13 years ago

The statistics wpr cites don't include the 2010 season.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



AHHH. That makes sense. I thought he was a lot closer than that. But the numbers are from their website. I thought they would be more current.
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doddpower
13 years ago

My resistance to such an idea has nothing to do with fan sentimentality and everything to do with my appreciation for Driver's willingness to go over the middle and make the difficult catch, and his ability to battle for the extra yard or two without losing the ball. In terms of raw numbers, Jones' output is better and therefore the move might make sense from that standpoint, but he seemingly cannot be relied upon in pivotal situations. His drops at inopportune times have directly lead to more than one defeat. If Jones could be coached out of his lack of focus, I would say that the team should make such a move in a heartbeat, Driver's feel-good dream of playing till 40 notwithstanding.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I can understand that point, but it's sounding like the Cobb fella might have some similar attributes. Not to mention Nelson and Finley. I'm pretty sure anything the Driver was going to instill in our WR's other than the rookies has already happened.

I know it can't be predicted, but I do not think it's worth losing Jones for another season like Driver had last year, and then being cut / retired. I honestly think Rodger's will be looking towards Finley and Nelson (and perhaps Cobb / Green) more on third downs anyway. Didn't Driver have the highest drop percentage last season? As was mentioned a few months ago, Jones drops are just noticeable because they're such big plays. However, at least he's getting open and providing an opportunity for such plays, and often making them.

It would be disappointing to lose those years of development in Jones as well. I'm really skeptical of driver having a 700+ yard season as mentioned above.

I don't know, I'm just thinking from a pure business / production standpoint. It's an interesting thought, for sure.
nerdmann
13 years ago

Isn't Donald Driver like 68 yards short of the all time team receiving record?

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Most Yards Receiving, Career
9,656 James Lofton, 1978-86 (9 seasons)
9,050 Donald Driver, 1999-2009 (11 seasons)
8,134 Sterling Sharpe, 1988-94 (7 seasons)
7,991 Don Hutson, 1935-45 (11 seasons)
6,918 Boyd Dowler, 1959-69 (11 seasons)

From GB record book

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http://www.nfl.com/players/donalddriver/profile?id=DRI611685 

9,615

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Gotta keep him then. They brought back Ahman Green!
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Bringing him back so that he can beat the record would be idiotic. They should bring him back because he is the best option available. If he is not, he needs to go.
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buckeyepackfan
13 years ago

Bringing him back so that he can beat the record would be idiotic. They should bring him back because he is the best option available. If he is not, he needs to go.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



:onfloor: :onfloor:

Packer History, team chemistry, player loyalty be damned!!

DD isn't going anywhere, he may not be the best option, but he still has the talent and ability to play for The Packers.

The team with the best talent isn't always the team that wins.
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PackerTraxx
13 years ago
I would like to see Driver around for a year or two yet in ordor to continue mentoring our WRs especially with Cobb coming in.

Jones might have better statistics but players that drop and fumble balls lose more games than they win.
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Cheesey
13 years ago

I can see Donald rebounding this year and getting 700 yards and 60 catches. They don't need him to be the 1000 yards 80 reception receiver at this time.
A key 3rd down receiver who can go over the middle. Someone with heart and will to grind it out. He will make the other WR better players because he is on the team. Jones is a fine player but I don't think he can elevate the game of those around him like Donald Driver can.

"wpr" wrote:


What Wayne says makes the most sense to me. Driver is not only an on the field help, his attitude and work ethics off the field is something that the team needs. My wife doesn't know much about football, but she knows who Driver is, and thinks he should be with the Packers because of his attitude and his level of play. He is an emotional leader.
And i don't think Driver has "hit the wall" yet. Is he getting old? Yes. But unlike the quarterback position, there are other players to take up the slack.

I would like to see Jones stay too. But i think he's more likely to want to play somewhere else. I think he will price himself out of GB.
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