Jackson, James Jones, Bigby among those non-tendered· Page 2

Wade
Veteran Member

13 years ago

Well, I have to say I'm bummed a bit about no-tendering Jones.

I still think those of you who hone in on the drops are going to regret his departure more than you think.

Drops and all, he's far better than Nelson, and far, far better than Swain or anyone that they might be able to draft at 32 or later.

If there's a single position where GB can take a major hit without problems, it's probably wide receiver. But don't fool yourselves. Losing Jones will be a major hit.

And I'm not convinced that even GB and King Aaron can take two major hits at WR.

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beast
Select Member

13 years ago

#12

First the new CBA is most likely going to make tenders on 4th and 5th year players useless as they can no long use them.

But I don't know why they would tender some and leave off Jackson and Jones ... I'm thinking the report could be wrong...

I can see leaving Bigby off with all of his injuries...
Jackson would take a 2nd round tender but tender are low... so why not?

Honestly this doesn't make sense to me... I'm thinking the reporting is wrong. But that's just a guess...

macbob
Veteran Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#13

Tendering BJack would have ensured no one was going to pick him up. The low offer this year is $1.2M, so I would think any team making him an offer would have to go higher than that to get him to leave the Packers and then part with a 2nd round draft pick on top of it. I don't think he'd be worth that, so we'd have him at $1.2M, and I'm not sure I'd pay a 3rd RB that much.

I wouldn't want to rely on compensatory picks giving us a 3rd rounder for JJ. The picks are set by a formula that considers salary, playing time, post season honors with new team, etc. I would have tendered JJ the $1.2M and then either we got him back cheap or a 3rd round pick for him.

nerdmann
Premier Member

13 years ago

#14

Two things they can do to decrease the drops by Jones.
1: Get him more involved. People said the same thing about Bishop before he got regular playing time. "He makes too many mistakes." Well, he looks pretty good now that he's had a chance to warm up on a regular basis.
2: Higher percentage passing.
DD had more drops than Jones, according to the stats someone posted last week. So making Jones the #2 guy would not only get him more involved, but would theoretically result in FEWER drops.
But I'll tell you one thing. If Jones leaves, Ted Thompson will draft a very suitable replacement. Hopefully one that returns punts.

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Greg C.
Registered

13 years ago

#15

"Wade" wrote:

Jones himself was a third round pick, and his rookie season was just as good as this one, and better than years two and three. So it is in fact entirely possible that the Packers could get someone just as good as Jones, or almost as good, with the 32nd pick or later.

I think Jones is better than Nelson, but not "far better," as you say. Their production was virtually equal this season. As earthquake said earlier in this thread, Nelson has pretty much caught up to Jones.

I'm not sure what you mean by the Packers possibly receiving "two major hits at WR." Jones and who else? And remember that Finley is coming back.

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earthquake
Member

13 years ago

#16

"Wade" wrote:

Dont get me wrong, I like Jones and would prefer to keep him. However, I dont know how realistic it is, I feel he may be overvalued in the FA market.

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Wade
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#17

I'm not sure what you mean by the Packers possibly receiving "two major hits at WR." Jones and who else? And remember that Finley is coming back.

"Greg C." wrote:

I'm saying that losing Jones means one major hit right off the bat. Then all it takes is one injury (like the one Finley had this year) to yield "two major hits".

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Greg C.
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13 years ago

#18

I'm not sure what you mean by the Packers possibly receiving "two major hits at WR." Jones and who else? And remember that Finley is coming back.

"Wade" wrote:

I'm saying that losing Jones means one major hit right off the bat. Then all it takes is one injury (like the one Finley had this year) to yield "two major hits".

"Greg C." wrote:

Ah, gotcha. That's the risk you run, certainly.

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Yerko
Senior Member

13 years ago

#19

With the high possibility of James Jones going elsewhere, does anyone see the Packers taking a wide receiver early?

peteralan71
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13 years ago

#20

With the high possibility of James Jones going elsewhere, does anyone see the Packers taking a wide receiver early?

"G-Force" wrote:

I really doubt they do that. With Jennings, Jordy, Driver, Swain (who has shown some talent), and that giant Finley back, I doubt we'll use a pick on a wideout. If anything, I don't think it be early anyway.

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