macbob
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13 years ago
I'm kind of surprised we didn't put any tender offer at all on JJ and BJ. I may be off a year, but I thought they were both 4 year players who would be restricted FAs, with the Packers getting some kind of compensation if they leave. Now they'll be UFAs, with no compensation.

The article didn't discuss Bigby, and mentioned a Browns WR, but the article title wouldn't fit so I modified it.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/05/brandon-jackson-james-jones-chansi-stuckey-among-those-non-tendered/ 

There wont be any transactions in the NFL during the next week, but a few of t weeks moves continue to slowly leak out. Or non-moves in this case.

Heres a quick round-up of notable players we learned were not tendered contracts as restricted free agents, making them unrestricted free agents when the new CBA is reached. (A few other notable non-tenders are right here.)

Packers running back Brandon Jackson: Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports the Packers only placed tenders on guard Daryn Colledge, kicker Mason Crosby, and fullback John Kuhn.

Not placing one on third-down back Brandon Jackson is a bit of a surprise because the team is expected to try to bring him back. With that said, Ryan Grant and James Starks are clearly ahead of him in Green Bay.

Packers wide receiver James Jones: Its hard to imagine the Packers paying the type of money it will require to retain Jones. We think someone will give him a nice deal as a potential starter. Safety Atari Bigby was also not tendered a contract.

Browns wide receiver Chansi Stuckey: Non-tendering Stuckey is a bit of a surprise because he led the Browns wide receivers with 40 catches last year. Not placing a tender on him may just be a recognition they dont want to sign Stuckey long-term. The Browns need to get faster on the edges; Stuckey plays the slot.

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Greg C.
13 years ago
No huge surprises. As the article says, it will probably be hard to hold onto Jones. Jackson can probably be had for cheap, though. The reasoning is simple: Jones will be worth more to some other team as a starter than he is to the Packers as the #3 or #4 guy, while Jackson won't be any more than a third down back anywhere, and he's worth more to the Packers because he knows the offense.
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13 years ago
1) Don't forget compensatory picks as compensation (if in the CBA).

2) Ted can still sign unrestricted free agents as soon as it is legal to do so.

3) Ted is upgrading the roster.

4) Ted doesn't negotiate scared. He negotiates with balls of steel.
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DakotaT
13 years ago
This is just my observation, but from James Jones' body language at the Super Bowl ceremony: I get the feeling he doesn't really like Green Bay. I had very high hopes for him, but he has dropped too many passes for me to consider him a must keep player.

Besides, like his predecessor, Rodgers makes his receivers look a little better than they are.
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nerdmann
13 years ago
Yeah, if we tendered Jones, we wouldn't be able to negotiate, right? Being that he's not "one of our players," we could still sign him. I'm vague on the rules there.
I do think they at least try to sign Jones. He's gonna be the #2 this coming year. Probly Bjack too. Just in case. Can always cut or trade him after TC.
What Nagler said on Ctv was that Jones' agent hadn't returned the call, so it was unknown whether or not they tendered him.
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13 years ago
I wouldn't cry about losing any of them. B-Jack is a dang good blocker and of the 3, he's the one I'd miss the most. I was a big Jones fan but he keeps dropping TD passes. Unacceptable. Bigby seemed to hit a wall and I don't think he'd ever be a dominant player.
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Kingkoopa
13 years ago

This is just my observation, but from James Jones' body language at the Super Bowl ceremony: I get the feeling he doesn't really like Green Bay. I had very high hopes for him, but he has dropped too many passes for me to consider him a must keep player.

Besides, like his predecessor, Rodgers makes his receivers look a little better than they are.

"DakotaT" wrote:



I saw his body language a the ceremony too, but had a different impression. I thought it wasn't because he didn't like GB, but because he felt he let the team down with all his drops in the playoffs, and wasn't really a part of the win. Greg Jennings had to literally call his name for him to join the WR core on stage. JMO, but you could definitely be right.

Personally, I think we need to move on from Jones anyway. He has had way too many drops, and he is no longer dependable. Also, as Greg said, he will no doubt be offered a lot more money from other teams than he would from GB since other teams will see him as a #1 or a #2, whereas GB likely doesn't seem that way. I trust Ted Thompson will find a good sleeper WR in the draft, as he has a great history with picking WRs.

As far as B-jax goes, I'm not surprised we didn't tender him. He is outstanding at blitz pickup, but Starks showed in his limited playing time that he could do a good job at picking up the blitz also. B-jax has shown he isn't a starting RB(at least in our system), but he will be 3rd on our depth chart. Like Jones, a team will overpay for him. The only area we might miss B-jax in is the screen game/receiving game. He has shown the best hands of all our RBs IMO, but at the same time, I have no reason to think Starks can't catch the ball.

As far as Hall, no reason to retain him IMO. John Kuhn is Korey Hall 2.0. He does everything Hall does, but better. Also, Hall has had difficulty staying healthy. The one I'm curious about is QJ. I think his contract has expired also. I haven't heard anything about him yet. I wonder if he will be back?
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Greg C.
13 years ago
Quinn just completed the second year of his four-year rookie contract. It's possible that he could get cut, though, as the logjam at fullback continues.
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Kingkoopa
13 years ago

Quinn just completed the second year of his four-year rookie contract. It's possible that he could get cut, though, as the logjam at fullback continues.

"Greg C." wrote:



Ah, thanks for that. For some reason I thought his contract was expired.
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earthquake
13 years ago
With how Nelson played late, even with the drops he had, I felt like he was coming into the #2/3 spot(With Jones being the 3/4). We've seen steady improvement from Nelson since he got here, whereas Jones actually looked his best in has rookie year. Jones had his best year since his rookie year, but drops too many easy TDs.

I think with how Nelson played in the playoffs, he really solidified himself here in GB. If you think about it, had Nelson caught that 2nd TD in the superbowl, you could have made a good argument that for him being the MVP of that game. He came up big(mostly) when it counted, and I dont think you can say the same about Jones.
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