millertime
13 years ago
Kiper's latest mock has us taking:

OLB Justin Houston, Georgia; 6'3 258

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A former defensive end, Houston became a stand-up pass rusher in Georgia's new 3-4 scheme in 2010. Considering the pass-rushing prowess he'd shown as an undersized defensive end in 2009, he proved to be made for the new role.

After redshirting in 2007, Houston showed flashes of ability in his first season on the field, accumulating 19 tackles and 2.5 sacks despite only starting one game. He started 10 games as a sophomore, earning second-team All-SEC accolades as an undersized defensive end. He posted 39 tackles, including a team-leading 15.5 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks.

Houston emerged as one of the most feared pass rushers in the SEC in 2010. He had 67 tackles, 18.5 tackles for loss and finished second in the conference, behind Auburn's Nick Fairley, with 10 sacks. Houston was credited by Georgia with 44 QB hurries -- three times as many as any other Bulldog defender -- and was named All-SEC as a finalist for the Butkus and Nagurski Awards.

Roughly half of the 32 NFL teams use a three-man line as their base defense. Versatile pass rushers like Houston are more valuable than ever. With a season of experience already under his belt -- as opposed to making the transition in training camp -- Houston has an advantage over similarly built athletes yet to prove they can make the switch. He might be viewed as a one-trick pony but, because of his burst off the edge, Houston the potential to be a top-50 pick.



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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I don't know the answer to this. I do wonder, has Mel Kiper Jr ever predicted correctly a Ted Thompson first round pick?
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Kingkoopa
13 years ago

I don't know the answer to this. I do wonder, has Mel Kiper Jr ever predicted correctly a Ted Thompson first round pick?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Yes, he predicted BB to the Packers this past year.

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23. Bryan Bulaga OT, Iowa
Kiper: Green Bay is lucky Aaron Rodgers was still standing at the end of last season. The Packers can't take that chance again. Upgrading the offensive line is a huge priority, and although Bulaga has had his off days, he's an impressive talent who moves well and has long arms that disrupt pass-rushers.



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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Neat. I thought someone here said no one predicted Bulaga to fall that far.
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millertime
13 years ago
I think he also picked AJ Hawk, but everyone saw him going to us.
Stevetarded
13 years ago

He'll take BPA.

However, that will be no fun to say "BPA" and the thread just ends.

Thus, we are discussing needs.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



So if Blaine Gabbert falls to us, we draft him?

No team ever drafts true BPA. Teams vary between reaching for the highest need, and picking BPA from a wider set of needs. Thompson does the latter.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



So if nobody ever does it that way then what is the point of assuming when someone says BPA they are talking about "true BPA"?
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millertime
13 years ago
This kid looks like a natural rusher. I like the SEC background. He's played in some big games.

Not sure about his coverage ability. But looks like a decent pick.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

No team ever drafts true BPA. Teams vary between reaching for the highest need, and picking BPA from a wider set of needs. Thompson does the latter.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I don't think any comment about drafting players could be more wrong.

No team EVER drafts BPA? I'd like to know how the fuck you know this and where you learned this? I will admit, I am 100% jealous that you're involved in all 32 teams and KNOW that no team EVER drafts the TRUE best player available.

Smooches.
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millertime
13 years ago

No team ever drafts true BPA. Teams vary between reaching for the highest need, and picking BPA from a wider set of needs. Thompson does the latter.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I don't think any comment about drafting players could be more wrong.

No team EVER drafts BPA? I'd like to know how the fuck you know this and where you learned this? I will admit, I am 100% jealous that you're involved in all 32 teams and KNOW that no team EVER drafts the TRUE best player available.

Smooches.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Enough with the BPA debate! I'm going to send you guys to your rooms.
Greg C.
13 years ago

No team ever drafts true BPA. Teams vary between reaching for the highest need, and picking BPA from a wider set of needs. Thompson does the latter.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I don't think any comment about drafting players could be more wrong.

No team EVER drafts BPA? I'd like to know how the fuck you know this and where you learned this? I will admit, I am 100% jealous that you're involved in all 32 teams and KNOW that no team EVER drafts the TRUE best player available.

Smooches.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



The way I interpreted what Finland wrote is that no team picks the BPA every single time. But I suppose the way he wrote it was a bit ambiguous.
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
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