Greg C.
14 years ago
Very cool to see Clay get it. I'm not surprised because even though his numbers fell off during the season, nobody else in the league really emerged to steal his thunder. One surprise from the vote tallies, though, is that Julius Peppers finished way back, in fifth place. I would have expected him to be a close second:

The top five in voting
1. Clay Matthews, OLB, Packers 188
2. Troy Polamalu, S, Steelers 148
3. Cameron Wake, OLB, Dolphins 64
4. James Harrison, OLB, Steelers 45
5. Julius Peppers, DE, Bears 44
(Note: 609 NFL players, coaches and executives voted for this award.)
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azrunning
14 years ago

Its Sporting News DPOY

"earthquake" wrote:



Right, this is not the AP(Associated Press) DPOY, the one that "matters".

However, well deserved anyway! I dont know if there was a single defense player that garnered more attention, double, tipple teams, blatant holds *every* game that CMIII.

"longtimefan" wrote:



Seems odd that the award voted on by writers is held in greater esteem than the one awarded by football people (players, coaches and GM's).
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peteralan71
14 years ago
I read what I wrote and it sounds like I am against him getting it. I'm not at all against it, and I think he has the talent to deserve it. I just believe that his numbers have decreased immensely because the other teams have been double teaming him, and that generally the DPOY (no matter who chooses it, SN or AP) is chosen based on stats. Therefore, I am surprised he got it.
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RashaanSalaami
14 years ago

Its Sporting News DPOY

"azrunning" wrote:



Right, this is not the AP(Associated Press) DPOY, the one that "matters".

However, well deserved anyway! I dont know if there was a single defense player that garnered more attention, double, tipple teams, blatant holds *every* game that CMIII.

"earthquake" wrote:



Seems odd that the award voted on by writers is held in greater esteem than the one awarded by football people (players, coaches and GM's).

"longtimefan" wrote:



Yeah, that's hilarious.

I'm surprised Clay won this one. I guess he really does have the respect of his peers. That first step, motor, work ethic, and demeanor must have been appreciated. I, even as a Packers fan, wouldn't give him the award this season. He started off like a mad man, but trailed off after injury. Oh well, it's not like I'm mad about it.
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doddpower
14 years ago

Its Sporting News DPOY

"RashaanSalaami" wrote:



Right, this is not the AP(Associated Press) DPOY, the one that "matters".

However, well deserved anyway! I dont know if there was a single defense player that garnered more attention, double, tipple teams, blatant holds *every* game that CMIII.

"azrunning" wrote:



Seems odd that the award voted on by writers is held in greater esteem than the one awarded by football people (players, coaches and GM's).

"earthquake" wrote:



Yeah, that's hilarious.

I'm surprised Clay won this one. I guess he really does have the respect of his peers. That first step, motor, work ethic, and demeanor must have been appreciated. I, even as a Packers fan, wouldn't give him the award this season. He started off like a mad man, but trailed off after injury. Oh well, it's not like I'm mad about it.

"longtimefan" wrote:



C'mon, you can't say something like that without saying who clearly deserves it much more than CM3.
Dulak
14 years ago

I read what I wrote and it sounds like I am against him getting it. I'm not at all against it, and I think he has the talent to deserve it. I just believe that his numbers have decreased immensely because the other teams have been double teaming him, and that generally the DPOY (no matter who chooses it, SN or AP) is chosen based on stats. Therefore, I am surprised he got it.

"peteralan71" wrote:



Well the votes were by coaches and players and maybe these guys knew he was getting doubled throughout the year and coaches were game planning for him. I do agree with peeps here that Im surprised he won also; he didnt even have the highest sack number ... but again if a coach on different teams often talks about an opposing LB and how you need to double team him perhaps he gains respect and maybe even when he does make plays he's a good sportsman.
Packers_Finland
14 years ago

i love this dude, but dpoy? you have to be kidding me. he's not even in the top 5 of all OLBs. 😃 :facepalm:

"GermanGilbert" wrote:



That's right, he isn't. Hali, Suggs, Wake, Harrison and Ware are better.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

That's right, he isn't. Hali, Suggs, Wake, Harrison and Ware are better.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



lmao he went by sacks and threw in Suggs. Nice.

Wake didn't have an interception, less tackles, less passes defensed, and he didn't have a touchdown either. Clay played in 14 and a half games compared to 16 for Wake.

I think Clay is a bit over rated, but I don't think Cameron Wake is a more better linebacker than Clay.
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Packers_Finland
14 years ago

That's right, he isn't. Hali, Suggs, Wake, Harrison and Ware are better.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



lmao he went by sacks and threw in Suggs. Nice.

Wake didn't have an interception, less tackles, less passes defensed, and he didn't have a touchdown either. Clay played in 14 and a half games compared to 16 for Wake.

I think Clay is a bit over rated, but I don't think Cameron Wake is a more better linebacker than Clay.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Wake had 12 tackles for loss compared to Matthews 5. Wake also had more pressures according to PFF.

Suggs, probably the best run stopping 3-4 OLB out there. But ok, lmao.

Also lol @ more better
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Why are we talking about number of sacks? Woodson came nowhere close to leading the league in sacks when he won the award. I would guess the voters look at overall impact the player has on the field as opposed to purely a statistical measure.
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