Greg C.
14 years ago
The nice thing about that list is that only two of those players--Jenkins and Jones--are important to the team's success and will cost a lot to resign. Kuhn has become important, but as a fullback, I would expect that he can be signed for a reasonable price.

As for the ILB situation, I am with most people on this one. We know how good this defense can be with Bishop and Hawk in the middle, so let's hope they try to keep Hawk. It may not be easy, though, and if they can't keep him, Barnett would not be a bad consolation prize by any means. I've always liked Barnett a lot.
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go.pack.go.
14 years ago

Does anyone think Hawks high level of play lately could be attributed in part to the play of Bishop? In other words, how much of Hawks play lately can be due to Bishop playing at a higher level than Barnett? Impossible to quantify I'm sure, but still interesting to ponder.

"doddpower" wrote:



I actually think the opposite. Hawk makes everyone else better. He is a great leader and he is very unselfish. He takes on blocks purposely sometimes so that others can make the play instead of just going for the tackle and missing. You really cant ask for a much better ILB in a 3-4 defense.
UserPostedImage
14 years ago
While I was trolling a viking board this morning I saw this and just had to point out that Bishop scored more TD's than viking starting WR Bernard Berrian (23 million over last 3 years).
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Greg C.
14 years ago

Does anyone think Hawks high level of play lately could be attributed in part to the play of Bishop? In other words, how much of Hawks play lately can be due to Bishop playing at a higher level than Barnett? Impossible to quantify I'm sure, but still interesting to ponder.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



I actually think the opposite. Hawk makes everyone else better. He is a great leader and he is very unselfish. He takes on blocks purposely sometimes so that others can make the play instead of just going for the tackle and missing. You really cant ask for a much better ILB in a 3-4 defense.

"doddpower" wrote:



Excellent point. I fully agree. I've been especially impressed with Hawk's pass coverage since Chillar went down. I think he's been as good as Chillar in pass coverage, making Chillar somewhat expendable (except for depth, of course).
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bozz_2006
14 years ago

I think that Hawk will gladly re-work his deal.

"TOPackerFan" wrote:



Would you gladly take a pay cut, especially if it's for less money than you could get elsewhere? I'm sure Hawk doesn't think he's worth $10 million next season, but if the Packers try to get cute with him and lowball him, someone will pay the guy.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



I think it's highly possible. If the pay cut comes in the form of a new contract that pays him more than the average of Bishop's contract. Bish got ~$4.75M per year, so if Hawk is offered a contract that averages roughly $6M per year, I think he'd sign it in a heartbeat. I'd call that a win/win for Hawk and the Packers.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

I think that Hawk will gladly re-work his deal.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



Would you gladly take a pay cut, especially if it's for less money than you could get elsewhere? I'm sure Hawk doesn't think he's worth $10 million next season, but if the Packers try to get cute with him and lowball him, someone will pay the guy.

"TOPackerFan" wrote:



I think it's highly possible. If the pay cut comes in the form of a new contract that pays him more than the average of Bishop's contract. Bish got ~$4.75M per year, so if Hawk is offered a contract that averages roughly $6M per year, I think he'd sign it in a heartbeat. I'd call that a win/win for Hawk and the Packers.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



I chalk this up to wishful thinking, just like how fans were saying that if Dom Capers is offered a head coaching job, it would be in his best interests to decline it so he can continue as DC of the Packers. Yeah, right.

I agree that Hawk's contract will need to pay him more than Bishop's contract for him to stick around, but if he is offered more by another team than he is offered by the Packers, he will seriously consider it, at the very least. He would be foolish not to.
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14 years ago

Yeah, I think Barnett will be the odd guy out.

"IronMan" wrote:



Yep. Actually, this is the first thing I thought when I read the title of the thread. And it wouldn't really make me sad after the way Hawk and especially Bishop have stepped up their game this season. Throw 'em into the fire and see what comes out! Sometimes that's the only way to really know. Fantastic news!

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


bozz_2006
14 years ago
And I guess I was operating under the assumption that he wouldn't get more than ~$6M/yr elsewhere, or at least not very much more. Perhaps that's more wishful thinking. At any rate, I think the Packers will do what it takes to keep him around.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

Yeah, I think Barnett will be the odd guy out.

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:



Yep. Actually, this is the first thing I thought when I read the title of the thread. And it wouldn't really make me sad after the way Hawk and especially Bishop have stepped up their game this season. Throw 'em into the fire and see what comes out! Sometimes that's the only way to really know. Fantastic news!

"IronMan" wrote:



The beauty of it is that we already know how well Hawk and Bishop play together. They've been excellent.
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Mckennj3
14 years ago
The only thing about Barnett being the odd man out is hes at an all time low value wise. While you can definitely argue this has been Hawk's strongest season.
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