Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
The importance of special teams failures in this game cannot be underestimated. Miami started every drive but one in the second half with a field less than 60 yards long. The Packers started every drive with at least a 70-yard field. The difference in starting field position had a tremendous effect on the game.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

I've stopped complaining about punters since Frost.

No one can ever be worse than that guy.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



2008 Derrick Frost: gross avg. 42.1 net avg. 38.2
2009 Jeremy Kapinos: gross avg. 43.8 net avg. 33.7
2010 Tim Masthay: gross avg. 43.1 net avg. 33.4

Net average is the one that counts most. So there are two punters right there who are worse than Derrick Frost. A lot worse.

For comparison, Jon Ryan's numbers in '07 were gross avg. 44.4 and net avg. 42.5. That's the guy Ted cut because he wasn't good enough. Hard to believe that we are giving up nine yards more of field position on every punt compared to '07.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
You would think if we cut someone not good enough, it would be because we had somebody better.

Apparently not in this case. I miss Jon Ryan. Besides, he could have doubled as a RB.
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Chutzpah515
14 years ago

I like him better than Derrick Frost and Jeremy Kapinos.

"blueleopard" wrote:



I agree.
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CDNRodgersfan
14 years ago
For me I've never got to mad about Ted Thompson moves but when he released Ryan it was tough to take. A lot of it had to do with him being from where I am so I thought maybe I was being a homer. I know his hangtime wasn't the best but he was coming from the CFL where you don't need it as much and I thought he was imroving. He had the biggest leg of any guy I've ever seen live. I could of handled him being released but what bothered me was he was let go but there was no plan after him. At least release a guy knowing you can improve the position
millertime
14 years ago
Maybe we can offer the Raiders a pick for Shane Lechler. He'd be worth a 5th in my opinion.

Masthay was a huge reason why we lost against both the Bears and Redskins. He has to go.
Chutzpah515
14 years ago

Maybe we can offer the Raiders a pick for Shane Lechler. He'd be worth a 5th in my opinion.

Masthay was a huge reason why we lost against both the Bears and Redskins. He has to go.

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5th round for a punter. Only if your Mike Sherman.
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millertime
14 years ago

Maybe we can offer the Raiders a pick for Shane Lechler. He'd be worth a 5th in my opinion.

Masthay was a huge reason why we lost against both the Bears and Redskins. He has to go.

"Chutzpah515" wrote:



5th round for a punter. Only if your Mike Sherman.

"millertime" wrote:



Think about it for a second.

Lechler's net average: 45.6 yards (#1 in the NFL).

Masthay's net average: 33.4 yards (#32 in NFL).

If we had Lechler, we'd be picking up 12.2 yards in field position per punt. We punt 4 times a game, so that'd be almost 50 yards of field position per game. That's more yardage then we get from James Jones.

Not many punters are worth breaking the bank for. Shane Lechler is.
CDNRodgersfan
14 years ago
I would of never given the punter credit for winning a game till Mike Scifers was the #1 reason the Chargers beat the Colts a couple of years ago placing almost every punt inside the 10
musccy
14 years ago

I would of never given the punter credit for winning a game till Mike Scifers was the #1 reason the Chargers beat the Colts a couple of years ago placing almost every punt inside the 10

"CDNRodgersfan" wrote:



I'm glad you brought that up, I remember exactly what you're talking about though never would have thought about it.

Miller raises good points about the values of the field position. However, punters are generally a dime a dozen, even just to get a servicable one, so although the extra 10+yards/punt would be REALLY nice, I'm not sure that a 5th is a good price.
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