nathaniel
15 years ago

They stated that the defense did not really play anyone in the second half to make a case for the defense being that good. They had good points. Pitt was about the only team they give props to and they stated Dallas was struggling at that time and Arizona did not play their players. All are valid points and might have some validity that the defense really is not that good. The rst of the teams listed for not having offense that we played were SF, Chicago, Seattle and Detroit for the seond half. Your thoughts

"zombieslayer" wrote:



My thoughts were that yards don't mean a ****** thing as I've said all along.

Points, folks. Points. We're NOT the #2 D. We weren't even in the top 5.

We gave up 38 points to the Bucs. The freaking Bucs. Now, I'm not calling for Dom's head or anything. Don't get me wrong. He made huge strides.

If we continue to improve defensively, we could win a SB. I'd like to see some DBs picked up in both the draft and FA. We're also going to have to bring more pressure on the opposing QB one way or another. I think this is a personnel issue. Sometimes I think we should do a hybrid 3-4/4-3 and keep Kampy and play him on the line in passing downs. That may be our best bet. We need to generate more pressure so the weaknesses in our secondary don't get overexposed.

EDIT: Just read what Buckeye said. I do think next year we'll be improved. I like the direction this team is going.

"packer98" wrote:



I never undertood the use of yards as the main factor in determining the best defenses. A team could march 99 yards down field and still not get a single point.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago

They stated that the defense did not really play anyone in the second half to make a case for the defense being that good. They had good points. Pitt was about the only team they give props to and they stated Dallas was struggling at that time and Arizona did not play their players. All are valid points and might have some validity that the defense really is not that good. The rst of the teams listed for not having offense that we played were SF, Chicago, Seattle and Detroit for the seond half. Your thoughts

"nathaniel" wrote:



My thoughts were that yards don't mean a ****** thing as I've said all along.

Points, folks. Points. We're NOT the #2 D. We weren't even in the top 5.

We gave up 38 points to the Bucs. The freaking Bucs. Now, I'm not calling for Dom's head or anything. Don't get me wrong. He made huge strides.

If we continue to improve defensively, we could win a SB. I'd like to see some DBs picked up in both the draft and FA. We're also going to have to bring more pressure on the opposing QB one way or another. I think this is a personnel issue. Sometimes I think we should do a hybrid 3-4/4-3 and keep Kampy and play him on the line in passing downs. That may be our best bet. We need to generate more pressure so the weaknesses in our secondary don't get overexposed.

EDIT: Just read what Buckeye said. I do think next year we'll be improved. I like the direction this team is going.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I never undertood the use of yards as the main factor in determining the best defenses. A team could march 99 yards down field and still not get a single point.

"packer98" wrote:



Bend don't break.
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

Wait, after the first half of the season, so many pundits were stating the Packers were 'doomed' because the second half of their schedule was where the 'meat' was at. Now, it was the easy part?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:




Yep. Revisionist history. They played the teams on the schedule and, other than the Steelers and finally the Cardinals, they beat them all.

I'm not personally concerned with where the defense ranked - aside from the two losses they did what they're paid to do.
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Dulak
15 years ago

Wait, after the first half of the season, so many pundits were stating the Packers were 'doomed' because the second half of their schedule was where the 'meat' was at. Now, it was the easy part?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



haha ya thats right on the money - I was even worried about our last 1/2 of the season. Thinking about all these great teams we had to face.

balt, dallas, pit (sb defending champs), cards (nfc defending champs), bears again (always tough at home), 49ers looked tough at the beginning of the season ...
Cuz481
15 years ago
They still had to prepare for a game, no matter if it was against the worst offense or the best offense, they had to prepare and stop them, which they were able to do for majority of the season. Doesn't matter who they're playing.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago
Nathanial & Twins - My point exactly. At the end of the day, who cares how many yards your opponent got? There's only one thing I care about - we got more points than they did.
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warhawk
15 years ago
I don't agree with the Bucs point total as any measuring stick. They got one TD off an INT, one off a blocked punt, and brought back a couple of returns deep on our end of the field. The defense could have had a better game for sure but certainly can't be held accountable for the total and based on the points they actually did give up we should have won the game.

There's no mystery to what happened and what has to be done to improve. The 3-4 has to get pressure on the QB. Especially the better QB's they face. When we got pressure on Romo it was a W. When we didn't get it against the Vikes, Ben, or, Kurt, it was a loss.

There are simply to many holes in the zone and the QB has to be forced to get the ball out before the receivers make it to the spots.

Every game we gave up more than 30 you can look back and see we did not get to the QB so I think that tells you all you need to know.
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Cheesey
15 years ago
FACT is, against Pitts and the Cards (in the playoff game) our D was M.I.A.
They were AWFUL. Plain and simple.
If teams want to beat our D, watch those 2 game films, and we are sunk.
UNLESS they make some big changes for next year.
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warhawk
15 years ago

FACT is, against Pitts and the Cards (in the playoff game) our D was M.I.A.
They were AWFUL. Plain and simple.
If teams want to beat our D, watch those 2 game films, and we are sunk.
UNLESS they make some big changes for next year.

"Cheesey" wrote:



If you look at those two games Ben and Kurt threw, threw, threw, and we just did not get pressure on them and they looked invincible. Both had their troubles in games where they were getting put on the ground.

I think it is extremely important that we find another rusher over Jones at that LB position. We need to squeeze the pocket and that will also give Mathews more shots too. If I am not mistaken I believe Baltimore's leading sacker is playing from that position and most really good 3-4's have a very good rushing defender in that spot.

I don't think either inside LB got the job done in either game you mention here either. When they go they have to get there and at least make the QB rush or throw with their feet moving or it's just going to end up badly.

This defense will just not work if the QB can stand back there at all. If that's the case we might as well rush four and man up. It's pretty simple really.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

FACT is, against Pitts and the Cards (in the playoff game) our D was M.I.A.
They were AWFUL. Plain and simple.
If teams want to beat our D, watch those 2 game films, and we are sunk.
UNLESS they make some big changes for next year.

"Cheesey" wrote:



In those 2 games, we had NO pressure on the opposing QB. The opposing QBs had too much time to find open receivers. That much time and no DB is going to be able to cover the guy he's supposed to be covering. Both QBs had six seconds all day long to find open receivers.
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TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings
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Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
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