zombieslayer
16 years ago


Forgetting that he turned a 4-12 team into a 13-3 team?
He did get rid of Favre, who is turning 39 and wasn't the most important part of this team. From what I remember, Favre had a season where he threw 20 TD's with 29 INT's. Only until Thompson surrounded him with huge playmakers such as Jennings, Jones, and Grant, then Favre didn't suck. Also, only 1 Quarterback ever at least 39 years of age has ever taken a team to the playoffs. Young inexperienced QB's however have proved they can do something when talent is around them (Ben Roethlisberger, Phillip Rivers). And believe me, this team is very talented. You should just accept the fact thatTed Thompsonis a great GM, and because of him this team will compete for many years to come. No way is he ever going to get canned.

Also, we don't have to witness those embarrassing Playoff game ending interceptions Favre loves to throw.

"cm_awesome" wrote:



First off, love your avatar. One of my favorite bands.

I won't give credit for Favre's success to TT, but more to MM. Why? It was the system that Favre excels at that MM set up. Yes, Jennings, Jones, and Grant were great finds. Hats off to Ted Thompson for that. But I really think MM gets more credit that a lot of people on this board falsely give Ted Thompson the credit for.

MM built a system that depends on timing, execution, and he's great at exploiting opposing D's weaknesses. For instance, if a D has a bad set of DBs, he has Favre exploit that. The system worked. It took 2 years, but it works. The sad thing is I strongly believe Favre would have done even better the 3rd year into the system. Contrary to the beliefs of people with short attention spans, a Coach just doesn't go into a team and win it all the first year. It takes time to develop. (The guy who replaced Walsh (brain fart, forgot his name) an exception but all he did was inherit the system already in place).

MM also understands Favre's weakness and in the 2nd year of the system, finally convinced Favre to not go for it all, take it a little bit at a time, and throw the "kill" shot when they're not expecting it. Thus, you have dink, dink, dink, BOMB. It works, and Favre excelled last year because of it. Favre was also really good at placing the ball exactly where it should be on the timing routes, thus enabling our WRs to turn a 6 yard gain into a 12 yard gain. He made it look easy, but it's not. It takes precise execution to do that or else everyone would be doing that.

So, not being anti-TT here, but more like giving the credit where it's really due - MM.
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Gravedigga
16 years ago

Old school mentality prevented us from getting randy moss and winning a superbowl last year, got rid of the best player the franchise has ever seen and is going with a virtual rookie into a season where we should be making another superbowl push. Not For Long and good luck getting another job once you're canned.

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Did you know that the Packers thought they had landed Randy Moss then the Patriots came in the middle of the night, literally, offering a higher pick and the Packers weren't given an opportunity to match?

I bet you know that already, but since it doesn't slam Ted you don't want to mention it because its been said several times. ;)

"Gravedigga" wrote:



Did YOU know that the Packers could have wrapped the deal up months before the Patriots were even in the picture?

I bet you remember that but since it slams Ted, you don't want to mention it because its been said countless times.
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago

Old school mentality prevented us from getting randy moss and winning a superbowl last year, got rid of the best player the franchise has ever seen and is going with a virtual rookie into a season where we should be making another superbowl push. Not For Long and good luck getting another job once you're canned.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



Did you know that the Packers thought they had landed Randy Moss then the Patriots came in the middle of the night, literally, offering a higher pick and the Packers weren't given an opportunity to match?

I bet you know that already, but since it doesn't slam Ted you don't want to mention it because its been said several times. ;)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Did YOU know that the Packers could have wrapped the deal up months before the Patriots were even in the picture?

I bet you remember that but since it slams Ted, you don't want to mention it because its been said countless times.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



I know it couldn't have been wrapped up months prior to the draft. Thanks for the effort though 🙂
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dingus
16 years ago
As stated previously in this and hundreds of other threads, Ted Thompson went to bed the night before the Moss deal thinking he had it sewn up, NE upped the offer (slightly) overnight and Oakland jumped on it. He had no chance to up his offer.

BF had 16 seasons to bring home the Lombardi, what makes this season any different than the other 15 he didn't? A championship is not a given even if you have Brett Favre.

Randy Moss still has no ring. End of Story.
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Greg C.
16 years ago

So, not being anti-TT here, but more like giving the credit where it's really due - MM.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Um, and who was it who made the highly unpopular decision to hire Mike McCarthy?
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Gravedigga
16 years ago

Old school mentality prevented us from getting randy moss and winning a superbowl last year, got rid of the best player the franchise has ever seen and is going with a virtual rookie into a season where we should be making another superbowl push. Not For Long and good luck getting another job once you're canned.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Did you know that the Packers thought they had landed Randy Moss then the Patriots came in the middle of the night, literally, offering a higher pick and the Packers weren't given an opportunity to match?

I bet you know that already, but since it doesn't slam Ted you don't want to mention it because its been said several times. ;)

"Gravedigga" wrote:



Did YOU know that the Packers could have wrapped the deal up months before the Patriots were even in the picture?

I bet you remember that but since it slams Ted, you don't want to mention it because its been said countless times.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I know it couldn't have been wrapped up months prior to the draft. Thanks for the effort though :)

"Gravedigga" wrote:



Are you kidding me? Or are you just intentionally trying to leave out facts? The Randy Moss hoopla began in January/February. The draft was in April. Please, you dont have to lie just to win in a discussion.
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Gravedigga
16 years ago

So, not being anti-TT here, but more like giving the credit where it's really due - MM.

"Greg C." wrote:



Um, and who was it who made the highly unpopular decision to hire Mike McCarthy?

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Maybe we should give the credit to Jesus for creating Adam and Eve, who had children.. Or maybe to TT's parents for having him allowing him to hire MM.

For those of you who dont believe in Jesus. We could give credit to the big bang theory for banging and creating life and Ted Thompson and MM. Seriously, where does it end 🙂
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yooperfan
16 years ago
I like "old school"!
I'm "old school" and I think "old school" is still what gets things done right in this great country of ours.

Keep up the good work Ted.
WhiskeySam
16 years ago
Wait, I thought Ted said we never had any interest in Moss when the whole thing came out? Wasn't that one of the things Favre cited for why he didn't trust TT, because he had been lobbying Moss?
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16 years ago
Did Ted and Co. shape a roster that went 13-3 last season?

Have we not build pretty solid depth along the roster?

Have we done this without spending a ton in the offseason spending wars?

Aren't we in a pretty good spot going into the season with a solid team?

IMO, yes on all accounts and that there is the premise of credit that was being given in this article.. no single manager in sports is flawless.. we lost out on players in the past and will probably do so in the future.. but one can hardly say we don't have more wins than losses on the roster front from the very first day Ted and Crew walked into Green Bay.

This front office is far from prefect and you can nit pick the losses if you choose.. but at the end of the day, we are a far better team today than we were in the 04 or 05 season.. without breaking the bank to do so.
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