zombieslayer
15 years ago



I always enjoy your posts Porky. Always!

However, this is how I look at it.....

If McCarthy asked Chico to sit... He would have. The Packer fans would not have had a fit, simply because Aaron would not have made an issue out of it in a post game presser.

Aaron would have simply stated: "It was the best thing, because our coach made the decision. He thought I was getting killed out there, and I listen to my coach. He is doing what is best for the team, he has a goal for us as a team. It is the same goal that all of us have as a team."

That my friend is the difference between Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



OK, however, this is absurd. Our 2nd string QB is who? Geez, even I forgot. Thankfully we got rid of that guy with the sweaty palms.

If MM asked Aaron to sit, I say 50/50 chance I punch the nearest Cowboys fan in the face.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago

He's not the same guy who entered the league, anymore.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



You're right. He's not quite the asshole he used to be.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Thinking a little more about this. I think Favre should have sat. I can see why Childress wanted to rest him. He's old and he's key for any chance of a playoff run. I think it was Peppers who was on him all day.

The best scenario I think would have been to call runs like they were going out of style. Give it to Taylor and Peterson in whichever order.
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GoPack1984
15 years ago
http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_14038891?nclick_check=1 

Brad Childress, Brett Favre dispute has been festering for awhile
By Sean Jensen
Pioneer Press
Updated: 12/22/2009 12:07:34 AM CST


During the Minnesota Vikings' 10-1 start, coach Brad Childress and quarterback Brett Favre celebrated plenty of highs.

But their relationship hit a low Sunday night during and after a 26-7 loss to the Carolina Panthers. NBC cameras captured Childress and Favre having an animated discussion on the sideline in the third quarter, which the quarterback later said revolved around the coach's inclination to plug in backup Tarvaris Jackson.

Interviews with six members of the organization revealed that Childress ripped his offense during halftime Sunday and that he privately unleashed an expletive-laden outburst toward Favre long after the game in the visitors' locker room.

The focus Monday was on damage control, with Childress downplaying his sideline discussion with Favre and suggesting that the point of his "stream of consciousness" centered more on the physical toll his veteran quarterback was enduring than anything else. In addition, a "calm Childress," as one player described him, made sure they were given their caps and T-shirts celebrating the 2009 NFC North championship.

But all is not well between Brad and Brett, and the primary difference centers on the quarterback's penchant to check out of runs and into passes. According to one team member, Favre has expressed frustration for much of the season about Childress' unwillingness to let him audible more.

ESPN reported Monday that Childress considered replacing Favre on Nov. 1 against the Green Bay Packers, and
two people with the team told the Pioneer Press that the coach considered replacing the quarterback Nov. 15 against the Detroit Lions.

Both incidents were overlooked, but Sunday's was uncovered.

Childress lashed out at his offense at halftime, after the unit had mustered just 66 net yards and struggled to run or pass the ball.

He cursed, and he called it "laughable" that they consider themselves a Super Bowl team.

One player described the tirade as "entertaining." Another likened it
to a parent chastising a teenager.

The offense opened the second half with another three-and-out series, and Favre apparently pushed his coach over the edge on the next series. According to a member of the team, Favre checked out of a run and into a pass, then was sacked for a 5-yard loss by Panthers cornerback Dante Wesley.

The Vikings punted the ball away for the fifth time in the game on the next play.

NBC cameras showed the exchange, with Childress placing his right hand on Favre's left biceps. But Favre pulled his arm away after Childress said something to him.

"We didn't have time - I didn't have time to sit there and say why or what. My response was, 'We've got to win this ballgame, and I want to stay in and do whatever I can.'

"Now, unfortunately, I didn't do that, but that was my intention."

Apparently that wasn't the first time he's infuriated Childress with an audible.

On Nov. 1 at Lambeau Field, the Vikings were leading 31-26 and seemed to be taking a conservative approach. On first down, from the Minnesota 41, Favre completed a screen pass that running back Adrian Peterson turned into a 44-yard gain. The Vikings ran the ball on the next two plays, losing a yard, and faced third and 11.

A run was called, according to ESPN, but Favre audibled and completed a 16-yard touchdown pass to receiver Bernard Berrian.

Despite the 38-26 lead, Childress instructed offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell to remove Favre from the game, ESPN reported, but the quarterback returned to action and handed the ball off on four consecutive plays.

Against the Lions on Nov. 15, Favre called an audible early in the second quarter that upset Childress, who told Jackson to start warming up, according to two team members. The Vikings were clinging to a 3-0 lead until Peterson scored on a 22-yard run with just under 11 minutes remaining in the quarter.

But Favre remained in the game, which the Vikings won 27-10, and he completed 20 of 29 passes for 344 yards and one touchdown with no interceptions.

Childress was asked Monday if he has broached the idea of giving way to Jackson in a close game this season.

"Where I approached him? No," Childress said.

Asked if there was any game when he thought about doing it, Childress said, "Now we're going deep. I'm going to let you guys go deep with (that) however you want."

Since taking over the Vikings in 2006, Childress has empowered his defensive coordinators but reigned over the offense. His inflexibility frustrated veteran quarterback Brad Johnson, and Gus Frerotte lamented to the Pioneer Press in August that he "basically had to run whatever they called." Frerotte also wondered if Childress and Favre could co-exist.

"It will be interesting to see if coach lets him do that or (he) still wants to take control and lead everything," Frerotte said of Childress.

In a story published Oct. 24, Bevell insisted Favre doesn't do "anything on his own," although he acknowledged that Favre "probably has more leeway" than his predecessors "because of his experience."

But tight end Visanthe Shiancoe said Favre was "progressively making more and more" adjustments.

"He's playing outside the lines but within the scheme," Shiancoe said at the time.

Favre, who is easygoing off the field, draws plenty of laughs at his press conferences, and he has referred to Childress as "Chilli" in several instances. But Favre hasn't abided by one of Childress' credos: not to air in-house information publicly.

Favre has been forthcoming about his own injuries, as well as the ailments of other players this season, including starting offensive tackles Bryant McKinnie (ankle) and Phil Loadholt (shoulder).

But Childress didn't express outrage about Favre's post-game comments.

"I think he probably gave you a stream of consciousness from the best of his recollection, wouldn't you say? Yeah," Childress said. "The great thing about telling the truth is you can tell it over and over again."


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DGB454
15 years ago

I don't believe Favre feared Jackson would take the starting job from him.

I do believe that Favre didn't want to see Jackson do something he was struggling to do on a routine basis, take the team and march down the field and score a time or two. If that were to happen, it would give a hint that Favre isn't as big of a cog in the Vikings as most think.

I think Favres to be credited solely for the wins and if he can't win, he doesn't want to see another QB march the team down the field while he's on the bench.


Interesting video here ...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4761127 

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I had to think about this one for a bit. Mostly because it hits home. When I am not doing so well at something at work the last thing I want is for my boss to say is " Call one of the other designers and pick their brains" . I want to be the one that comes up with the great idea not the other guy.

I look back at the Cowboys game where Brett got hurt and Aaron stepped in. I was scared that without Brett in there it was over. Aaron came in and almost won it for us. At that point I was on board with Aaron. At that point I think a lot of people were on board with him too. Remember how Brett acted the rest of the game? He moped around behind the benches not really paying attention. He was acting just like I would have acted.

Brett is a smart guy. He knows that if TJ would have come in and played better than he was playing then the Viking fans would begin to look at him differently. Just as I/we did after the Cowboys game.

The fans want their team to win. If they see a player who gives them a better chance at that moment then that's who they want in the game.
It doesn't matter who got them there....it matters who is going to take them the rest of the way.
gbpfan
15 years ago
chilldress should have taken control so says sports center he should not let brett because they feel brett is in control witch i guess is true when darrren is backing you up,seems there is trouble in paradise.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago


Posted by Mike Florio on December 22, 2009 8:58 AM ET
As it turns out, Chilly isn't such a chump after all.

Sean Jensen of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports that, both before and after the "heated discussion" that Vikings coach Brad Childress claims wasn't a "heated discussion," Childress targeted some heated words at members of his team.

Per Jensen, the offense got it at halftime, and Favre himself was the target after the game, presumably after Favre aired the dirty laundry to the media.

At the half, Childress reportedly cursed at the team and said it's "laughable" that the Vikings consider themselves a Super Bowl team.

Though a kinder, gentler Chilly emerged on Monday, Jensen writes that "all is not well between Brad and Brett, and the primary difference centers on the quarterback's penchant to check out of runs and into passes."

And so, as several of you have suggested in the comments, it sounds like there's finally a schism in Minnesota. Favre might not have known what the term meant in August, but we've got a feeling that he knows it now.


UserPostedImage
15 years ago
Childress was Favre's chauffeur when this whole relationship started. You're pretty much guaranteed to be the bitch if you start out that way, head coach or not. We've all known that Favre has been enjoying himself in Minnesota this season because he hasn't had to do anything he didn't want to, from training camp to handing the ball off to whatever... And Childress is only realizing this now?
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Cheesey
15 years ago
Childress caused this. Had he not had his nose up Favre's butt before he signed, MAYBE he could have had some control over him. But he pretty much handed the reains to Chilly.
NOW Chilly is surprised BF is not willing to let ANYONE tell him what to do? Should he be surprised???
He helped create this monster by allowing him to do whatever he wants. Good luck Chilly, pulling Brett back in now.
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dfosterf
15 years ago
I love a good Viking schism, real or imagined...I'm totally good either way.

Hopefully the Vikes will somehow manage to lose to the Bears, which will convert this from a schism to a semi-panic, which I like even better.
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