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BUT, my question is ... has Mike McCarthy lost control over this team? Not did we blitz enough, etc. My frustration comes from hearing the same thing from Mike McCarthy's mouth, yet to me, it's not translating onto the field. What's the problem? Are we too young to do as were told?

I'm not saying he has lost the team for sure, guaranteed, no question about it. I'm more so questioning whether he has or not. On some aspects, I think he has to a certain degree and needs to fix it.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Sure, I would like the 0line to play a little better but that's not even what cost us this game.

1) Special Teams. Specifically kickoff coverage although they got a punt return back to the 49 too.
2) The head butt. Four points
3) Missed FG
4) failed two point conversion- that was a walk in.

"warhawk" wrote:

But the same old nagging problems persist:

The Packers cant protect Rodgers, who has suffered a league-high 31 sacks, including six more times on Sunday against the salivating Vikings.

The Packers cant run the football, with Ryan Grant showing the teams true colors by gaining 30 yards in 10 carries against a good defense.

The Packers cant help themselves from committing stupid penalties.

The Packers cant count on their special teams, no matter how much emphasis was placed on that area during the offseason.

Here's my challenge: find the number of 3 step drops and 5-7 step drops from last night. When someone has done that then we can debate the merits of each as they pertain to a) the defense scheme b) how the offense is trying to attack the defense c) the down and distance d) any more variables anyone can think of.

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I'm a little surprised nobody brought up the field goal on 4th and goal from the 8 in the 3rd quarter. At that point we were down 24-3 and in my opinion a field goal isn't helping us that much. It's still a 3 possession game. I would have liked to see McCarthy have a little faith in both our offense and defense in that situation. For many of their drives, Minnesota was working with a short field. I'd like to think, in the event we didn't get the touchdown, our defense could have come up with the stop. Instead we go for the field goal and it's a little more forgettable because of the fumble on the ensuing kickoff. Let's just say we got for it, get the touchdown, and the fumble still occurs on the kickoff. Then it's a 17-24 game instead of 13-24 and our next touchdown ties it.

"rodgehodge" wrote:

I remember last season many 'experts' were saying Marvin Lewis had lost his team. Meaning they just weren't listening to him and believing into his system.

I think Mike McCarthy is having that issue now. Jenkins and Woodson have both spoken out against the new scheme. Kampman I don't think much likes it. Jolly basically thinks his actions with that penalty were okay. I say he thinks they were okay because he said he's not going to change. I would expect a well disciplined player to say "i need to play smarter than that", instead of hearing him say "it didn't cost us the game".

On offense we have so many dumb holding calls. I counted two in the first half that weren't even called. Some say you can call holding on every play. I'm talking these two holding's were change the players direction holding.

I think he has the ability to take the team back. However, I think he's too stubborn to adapt to what he needs to in order to do so.

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