AJistheHawk50
15 years ago
The Penalties, The Lack of Ability to pick up the blitz. Even Aaron's problem of not getting the ball out is a result of poor coaching.

The Defense. Capers has impressed me with his ability to coach this team off the field. He obviously knows how to teach the 3-4. But his play calling has not been impressing me much.

But there has always been a problem with penalties. Well ever since Mike McCarthy. The Johnny Jolly penalty could have very well lost us that game. All the momentum was going our way at that point then he commits a penalty because he could not swallow his pride and walk off the field without getting in someones face who bumped into him. That's ridiculous. We should have seen Mccarthy tearing him a new asshole. Except i didn't see it. It cost us 4 points in the game. I remember Brady Poppinga had a very similar penalty last year against the Titans. I know im going into the vault there but still, its a penalty ill personally never forget.
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tonyagnese
15 years ago
That penalty by Jolly was ridiculous. Coming off of a huge stop, that cost us a TD. I agree...huge momentum swing, but I doubt it cost us the game.
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Pack93z
15 years ago
We all are searching for consistency.. well Mike McCarthy and company has the penalty thing nailed.. we continue to cook our own goose weekly.
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IronMan
15 years ago
3rd and 17 and we only rush 3? Result: 19 yard gain. Next play, 51 yard td pass.

Capers = Fail.
bigfog
15 years ago
I think the Browns actually have claim to this title. Losing back to back games by 20+ points...yeah, I'd put them up before I put the Packers as worse coached team. Let's be a little realistic here.

Are they bad? Oh, hell yeah. Same mistakes over and over. But they're not Browns bad.

That said, I think McCarthy should go.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

3rd and 17 and we only rush 3? Result: 19 yard gain. Next play, 51 yard td pass.

Capers = Fail.

"IronMan" wrote:



I thought that was stupid. Blitz and if he has to throw it quick, it's a good chance it's going to be less than 17 yard gain.

Dumb call by Capers, I think. Shit, even Aikman was laughing at us.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago

3rd and 17 and we only rush 3? Result: 19 yard gain. Next play, 51 yard td pass.

Capers = Fail.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I thought that was stupid. Blitz and if he has to throw it quick, it's a good chance it's going to be less than 17 yard gain.

Dumb call by Capers, I think. Shit, even Aikman was laughing at us.

"IronMan" wrote:



Both McCarthy and Capers seem to be dyslexic. McCarthy uses the 2nd half game plan in the 1st half. And Capers blitzes in the opposite situations.
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evad04
15 years ago
Kampman's 3rd down sack the week before was on a 3 man pass rush. How is that different? Oh, right, we were playing the Browns so NOTHING from that game matters or translates over!

You guys can't have your cake and eat it too.

It's to the point where following a loss the bitching on here is so self-righteous and incessant -- so full of know it alls -- that I'm thinking a vacation from this place is in order.

I have rarely in my life seen such negativity about one's team -- and I'd have to look to the lowly Vikings fans for a reference point.

It really is making me angry. I MEAN ANGRY! Lemme clue you into something, fellas: YOU AREN'T A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR! Moreover, there's a lot more that goes into a game than one freakin' play. Let's assume for the hell of it that the play in question was indeed a rotten call -- it's one play! Now, take into account that Favre had already torched us on the blitz in that game. Minnesota has an offense that is very difficult to stop. Favre played patiently. When the pressure came he got rid of it INSTANTLY. When he had time for the play to develop, he found the open man.

I don't care how many bridges I burn. You all need to untwist your fucking panties, look in the mirror and ask yourselves this: do you want to be like a Vikings fan? Do you want to look for an easy out, a simple blame, a singular reason for all our troubles? "McCarthy needs to go!" because we're 4-3 and two of those losses are against a top-5 NFL team while the other was by a resurgent division-tied-for-the-lead Bengals team?

Being critical is one thing. Making wholesale generalizations like this is the most poorly coached team in the NFL? That's something VIKINGS FANS SAY AFTER THEY LOSE.
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brnt247
15 years ago
Knee jerk reactions across packer land seem to be the norm.
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wils0646
15 years ago

It really is making me angry. I MEAN ANGRY! Lemme clue you into something, fellas: YOU AREN'T A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR! Moreover, there's a lot more that goes into a game than one freakin' play. Let's assume for the hell of it that the play in question was indeed a rotten call -- it's one play! Now, take into account that Favre had already torched us on the blitz in that game. Minnesota has an offense that is very difficult to stop. Favre played patiently. When the pressure came he got rid of it INSTANTLY. When he had time for the play to develop, he found the open man.

"evad04" wrote:



I completely agree. Mike McCarthy said something like this in the press conference. We need to start winning our one on ones up front on a 4-5 man rush. We couldn't get to Favre either way.

I don't care how many bridges I burn. You all need to untwist your fucking panties, look in the mirror and ask yourselves this: do you want to be like a Vikings fan? Do you want to look for an easy out, a simple blame, a singular reason for all our troubles? "McCarthy needs to go!" because we're 4-3 and two of those losses are against a top-5 NFL team while the other was by a resurgent division-tied-for-the-lead Bengals team?



I think it's more about who we lost to than the state of our current team. A lot of people on here are just reacting way too irrationally after losing to one of the best teams in the league.
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
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beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
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