Dulak
15 years ago

McCarthy's problem may be that he is *too* smart.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

I've often thought this about the entire regime that they out think and out smart themselves.

"Wade" wrote:



I remember reading about how the packers would run a slant and the other team knew they were going to run a slant but they couldnt be stopped.

I probably like 50% of his plays.

Speaking of the run; I got so tired of seeing him try to run the ball up the middle in the first 3 games. To me it was like this "ok we are paying grant the big bucks we might as well run him; and since he cant juke a tackler we will just have him run up the middle" ... and 3 quarters later Mike McCarthy finally decides to do a screen or a outside run or 2. That was some of the lamest run calling yet.
Mike McCarthy needs to work with rodgers on the dump off plays; screens - short passes etc ...

We have 3 of the best fullbacks lets use them. How about the wishbone formation and start seeing what we can do.

I like the tricky plays; ie ones that we tended to use more in preaseason or for example that reverse we pulled with driver and he went for what 12 or 18?

I agree with the one poster thou - the first drive of the MN game was sweet; nice play calling. After that it started to get predictable.

- oh incase I didnt mention this - if I see another 1st and 10 and sending grant up the middle I'm going to stop watching our 1st downs. How many times has he run that? and how many times has it not worked?
Mike McCarthy either needs to dump grant or start calling different plays
bt_impaler
15 years ago
Had a lot of work the past few days, and I missed the discussion I started...

Anyway, read all the posts.

Criticisms ranging from not running the ball enough, to running it too much, to throwing too much on first, to running too much on first... streakiness with calls (not mixing it up), and, of course, predictability.

If I had my way, I'd run the ball 70% of the time, but we don't have the personnel to do it. Our line is subpar and our running backs are mediocre at best. You have to run to slow down the rush and keep the defense somewhat honest, and I think that's the only purpose it serves for us unfortunately.

Slants and screens - a few posters were clamoring for more of them. I would love to see more screens called. I see slant patterns run, but Rodgers doesn't like to throw them or they are just decoys. But I'd definitely like to see more screens with our personnel more like 2007 and replace our anemic run game with the short passing game.

Streakiness with playcalling. I've seen it, but it doesn't bother me if it's working. I'm a strong believer that if you find something that works, and they can't stop it, keep hammering it down their throats. Unfortunately, they stop it eventually - so maybe my instincts are wrong.

I liked Wade's Princess Bride analogy. What's most important is just being downright tougher than the opponent and beating them no matter what the decision.

After watching the Detroit game, I was fine with the playcalling, but quite dissappointed with the execution. <sarcastic>Hooray, we shut out Detroit without their best player and their third string QB</sarcastic> No, no, I'm happy we won, don't get me wrong (but pissed as hell those wretched Vikes won), but we left too too many points on the board. And penalties! My god the endless penalties! And sacks! Five sacks to a hapless Detroit! Maybe our mistakes will motivate for more improvement. Just hate seeing the same metal errors week after week. But I digress.
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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
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