Dulak
15 years ago

McCarthy's problem may be that he is *too* smart.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

I've often thought this about the entire regime that they out think and out smart themselves.

"Wade" wrote:



I remember reading about how the packers would run a slant and the other team knew they were going to run a slant but they couldnt be stopped.

I probably like 50% of his plays.

Speaking of the run; I got so tired of seeing him try to run the ball up the middle in the first 3 games. To me it was like this "ok we are paying grant the big bucks we might as well run him; and since he cant juke a tackler we will just have him run up the middle" ... and 3 quarters later MM finally decides to do a screen or a outside run or 2. That was some of the lamest run calling yet.

MM needs to work with rodgers on the dump off plays; screens - short passes etc ...

We have 3 of the best fullbacks lets use them. How about the wishbone formation and start seeing what we can do.

I like the tricky plays; ie ones that we tended to use more in preaseason or for example that reverse we pulled with driver and he went for what 12 or 18?

I agree with the one poster thou - the first drive of the MN game was sweet; nice play calling. After that it started to get predictable.

- oh incase I didnt mention this - if I see another 1st and 10 and sending grant up the middle I'm going to stop watching our 1st downs. How many times has he run that? and how many times has it not worked?

MM either needs to dump grant or start calling different plays
bt_impaler
15 years ago
Had a lot of work the past few days, and I missed the discussion I started...

Anyway, read all the posts.

Criticisms ranging from not running the ball enough, to running it too much, to throwing too much on first, to running too much on first... streakiness with calls (not mixing it up), and, of course, predictability.

If I had my way, I'd run the ball 70% of the time, but we don't have the personnel to do it. Our line is subpar and our running backs are mediocre at best. You have to run to slow down the rush and keep the defense somewhat honest, and I think that's the only purpose it serves for us unfortunately.

Slants and screens - a few posters were clamoring for more of them. I would love to see more screens called. I see slant patterns run, but Rodgers doesn't like to throw them or they are just decoys. But I'd definitely like to see more screens with our personnel more like 2007 and replace our anemic run game with the short passing game.

Streakiness with playcalling. I've seen it, but it doesn't bother me if it's working. I'm a strong believer that if you find something that works, and they can't stop it, keep hammering it down their throats. Unfortunately, they stop it eventually - so maybe my instincts are wrong.

I liked Wade's Princess Bride analogy. What's most important is just being downright tougher than the opponent and beating them no matter what the decision.

After watching the Detroit game, I was fine with the playcalling, but quite dissappointed with the execution. <sarcastic>Hooray, we shut out Detroit without their best player and their third string QB</sarcastic> No, no, I'm happy we won, don't get me wrong (but pissed as hell those wretched Vikes won), but we left too too many points on the board. And penalties! My god the endless penalties! And sacks! Five sacks to a hapless Detroit! Maybe our mistakes will motivate for more improvement. Just hate seeing the same metal errors week after week. But I digress.
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