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Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

15 years ago

Whether or not Grant is running hard (and I too see him going down sometimes before he even gets touched), the fact is we almost never see him actually hit a defender. In several games last week, I saw a number of running backs put hits on would-be tacklers as they streaked down the sidelines. They created their own holes. Think of the famous play in which AP made Al Harris look like a bitch. We never see that kind of aggression out of Grant. Not only does he not hit the defenders, he seems to try as hard as possible to avoid being hit.

The scary thing is that if Grant goes down, we will have zero running game. We may well start seeing box scores with negative rushing yards.

4PackGirl
Registered

15 years ago

#22

i think it was grant last nite who had a decent run going, saw a defender coming toward him & just ran out of bounds - i was pissed as hell!! nail the SOB & gain a few extra yards!!! other than that play, i thought he did better this game.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

It was late in the game and he was stopping the clock.

"4PackGirl" wrote:

the play i saw was before 10pm so it wasn't late in the game. musta been a different play you're talking about, zero. this was either late in the 1st half or early in the 2nd half.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

#23

"4PackGirl" wrote:

It was late in the game and he was stopping the clock.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

the play i saw was before 10pm so it wasn't late in the game. musta been a different play you're talking about, zero. this was either late in the 1st half or early in the 2nd half.

"4PackGirl" wrote:

Oh fine I'll look at the video again and find it ... :)

edit, this has to be the run then.
[video width=640 height=480]http://packershome.com/videos/2009/10.05.09.Packers.Vikings.c_EDIT0000.AVI[/video]

Are we seriously expecting RYAN GRANT to make THAT cut? C'mon now geez. lol

4PackGirl
Registered

15 years ago

#24

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

It was late in the game and he was stopping the clock.

"4PackGirl" wrote:

the play i saw was before 10pm so it wasn't late in the game. musta been a different play you're talking about, zero. this was either late in the 1st half or early in the 2nd half.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Oh fine I'll look at the video again and find it ... :)

"4PackGirl" wrote:

lol - it's not a big deal, kev. just something iron & i noticed. i really don't care. that was the only time he pissed me off - otherwise i thought he played pretty damn good. comparatively speaking.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

#25

I don't think it's fair to ask a Ryan Grant to make that cut. Just my opinion. It would be nice to have a RB that could run at that speed and make a 45 degree cut on a dime though. Just how many backs are there like that in the NFL?

Tezzy
Senior Member

15 years ago

#26

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

I agree. We as television viewers also have an unfair advantage of seeing a different angle. I'd like to see a simulation of what it looks like from the RBs eyes on those plays. Yes, there are freaks out there like AP who can do that, but they are a rare treasure and not the norm.

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Timmons
Registered

15 years ago

#27

I said it before and I will say it again. Ryan Grant has the worst job in the NFL... Ok, second worst, only to Aaron Rodgers.

Until our line can keep defenders out of the backfield, we ought to focus on that. RB's are not our problem.

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rodgehodge
Registered

15 years ago

#28

That's alright if you want to use a tandem IMO in the backfield, but not for a guy getting as many touches as he is.

"Tezzy" wrote:

Grant isn't exactly getting a lot of touches. This week it was 11 carries, at 4.64 yards/carry (are we going to complain about that against the Queens daunted run D?), plus his 4 catches at 12.5 yards per. Everyone seems to cheer Grant on every time he gets a good run, only to find the actual hole in the line was created by penalty. Imagine if those holes were actually created from good blocking. I will be happy to get BJack back to compliment that production. Wynn has had his opportunities to steal touches from Grant but hasn't taken advantage of them.

I disagree with a lot of people about him not fighting for yards or falling to easy, I see the complete opposite. Seems to me lots of people still have a hangover from Grant last year.

"porky88" wrote:

I completely agree with this. McCarthy has a nasty habit of abandoning the run if we're trailing at the half, then bringing it back when we're getting stomped. People are wishing he would run over guys like AP does, but i think there are probably 30 other nfl teams that are wishing that same thing. I saw a lot of promise from Grant on Monday night. If McCarthy would have given him more touches we might have even been able to run some successful play action passes and given Rodgers another second to make a play.

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4PackGirl
Registered

15 years ago

#29

ok, i can't see the vid - all i said was "nail the SOB for extra yards".
i never said anything about making a 45 degree cut.
he's paid to take those kinds of hits.
this IS the nfl, correct?

i know now it'll be "it's easy for you to say, he'll risk injury doing that, blah blah blah" - it's a violent sport. they know that when they ink million dollar deals.

IronMan
Veteran Member

15 years ago

#30

"4PackGirl" wrote:

Try this link:

http://packershome.com/videos/2009/10.05.09.Packers.Vikings.c_EDIT0000.AVI

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beast (1h) : I was rooting for the Bears to win and hurt their draft pick status

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TheKanataThrilla (2h) : That was terrible.

TheKanataThrilla (2h) : Watching that game in its entirety yesterday is proof positive that I am a football addict.

beast (2h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent

beast (2h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime

beast (2h) : They probably are not tanking, but they've absolutely mismanagement some things, such as Vikings seeing the Packers blocked FG and realizing

Zero2Cool (3h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is

Zero2Cool (3h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true

beast (4h) : I've quietly questioned if Bears are tanking on purpose... they suddenly got a lot worse with some simple concepts like 101 clock management

wpr (6h) : Watching bares fans melt down over how putrid their team is, so enjoyable. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

Mucky Tundra (13h) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago

beast (14h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years

Zero2Cool (21h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.

packerfanoutwest (21h) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it

beast (22h) : Sounds like no Alexander (again), I'm wondering if his time with the Packers is done

Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.

Mucky Tundra (26-Dec) : Houston getting dog walked by Baltimore

packerfanoutwest (25-Dec) : Feliz Navidad!

Zero2Cool (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas!

beast (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas 🎄🎁

beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won

Martha Careful (24-Dec) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!

Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol

Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???

Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky

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