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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Whether or not Grant is running hard (and I too see him going down sometimes before he even gets touched), the fact is we almost never see him actually hit a defender. In several games last week, I saw a number of running backs put hits on would-be tacklers as they streaked down the sidelines. They created their own holes. Think of the famous play in which AP made Al Harris look like a bitch. We never see that kind of aggression out of Grant. Not only does he not hit the defenders, he seems to try as hard as possible to avoid being hit.

The scary thing is that if Grant goes down, we will have zero running game. We may well start seeing box scores with negative rushing yards.
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4PackGirl
15 years ago

i think it was grant last nite who had a decent run going, saw a defender coming toward him & just ran out of bounds - i was pissed as hell!! nail the SOB & gain a few extra yards!!! other than that play, i thought he did better this game.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



It was late in the game and he was stopping the clock.

"4PackGirl" wrote:



the play i saw was before 10pm so it wasn't late in the game. musta been a different play you're talking about, zero. this was either late in the 1st half or early in the 2nd half.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

i think it was grant last nite who had a decent run going, saw a defender coming toward him & just ran out of bounds - i was pissed as hell!! nail the SOB & gain a few extra yards!!! other than that play, i thought he did better this game.

"4PackGirl" wrote:



It was late in the game and he was stopping the clock.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



the play i saw was before 10pm so it wasn't late in the game. musta been a different play you're talking about, zero. this was either late in the 1st half or early in the 2nd half.

"4PackGirl" wrote:



Oh fine I'll look at the video again and find it ... :)

edit, this has to be the run then.
[video width=640 height=480]http://packershome.com/videos/2009/10.05.09.Packers.Vikings.c_EDIT0000.AVI[/video]


Are we seriously expecting RYAN GRANT to make THAT cut? C'mon now geez. lol
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4PackGirl
15 years ago

i think it was grant last nite who had a decent run going, saw a defender coming toward him & just ran out of bounds - i was pissed as hell!! nail the SOB & gain a few extra yards!!! other than that play, i thought he did better this game.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



It was late in the game and he was stopping the clock.

"4PackGirl" wrote:



the play i saw was before 10pm so it wasn't late in the game. musta been a different play you're talking about, zero. this was either late in the 1st half or early in the 2nd half.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Oh fine I'll look at the video again and find it ... :)

"4PackGirl" wrote:



lol - it's not a big deal, kev. just something iron & i noticed. i really don't care. that was the only time he pissed me off - otherwise i thought he played pretty damn good. comparatively speaking.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I don't think it's fair to ask a Ryan Grant to make that cut. Just my opinion. It would be nice to have a RB that could run at that speed and make a 45 degree cut on a dime though. Just how many backs are there like that in the NFL?
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Tezzy
15 years ago

I don't think it's fair to ask a Ryan Grant to make that cut. Just my opinion. It would be nice to have a RB that could run at that speed and make a 45 degree cut on a dime though. Just how many backs are there like that in the NFL?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I agree. We as television viewers also have an unfair advantage of seeing a different angle. I'd like to see a simulation of what it looks like from the RBs eyes on those plays. Yes, there are freaks out there like AP who can do that, but they are a rare treasure and not the norm.
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Timmons
15 years ago
I said it before and I will say it again. Ryan Grant has the worst job in the NFL... Ok, second worst, only to Aaron Rodgers.

Until our line can keep defenders out of the backfield, we ought to focus on that. RB's are not our problem.
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rodgehodge
15 years ago

That's alright if you want to use a tandem IMO in the backfield, but not for a guy getting as many touches as he is.

"Tezzy" wrote:



Grant isn't exactly getting a lot of touches. This week it was 11 carries, at 4.64 yards/carry (are we going to complain about that against the Queens daunted run D?), plus his 4 catches at 12.5 yards per. Everyone seems to cheer Grant on every time he gets a good run, only to find the actual hole in the line was created by penalty. Imagine if those holes were actually created from good blocking. I will be happy to get BJack back to compliment that production. Wynn has had his opportunities to steal touches from Grant but hasn't taken advantage of them.

I disagree with a lot of people about him not fighting for yards or falling to easy, I see the complete opposite. Seems to me lots of people still have a hangover from Grant last year.

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I completely agree with this. McCarthy has a nasty habit of abandoning the run if we're trailing at the half, then bringing it back when we're getting stomped. People are wishing he would run over guys like AP does, but i think there are probably 30 other nfl teams that are wishing that same thing. I saw a lot of promise from Grant on Monday night. If McCarthy would have given him more touches we might have even been able to run some successful play action passes and given Rodgers another second to make a play.
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4PackGirl
15 years ago
ok, i can't see the vid - all i said was "nail the SOB for extra yards".
i never said anything about making a 45 degree cut.
he's paid to take those kinds of hits.
this IS the nfl, correct?

i know now it'll be "it's easy for you to say, he'll risk injury doing that, blah blah blah" - it's a violent sport. they know that when they ink million dollar deals.
IronMan
15 years ago

ok, i can't see the vid - all i said was "nail the SOB for extra yards".
i never said anything about making a 45 degree cut.
he's paid to take those kinds of hits.
this IS the nfl, correct?

i know now it'll be "it's easy for you to say, he'll risk injury doing that, blah blah blah" - it's a violent sport. they know that when they ink million dollar deals.

"4PackGirl" wrote:


Try this link:

http://packershome.com/videos/2009/10.05.09.Packers.Vikings.c_EDIT0000.AVI 
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