I think after all this time people should know MM wont let it be known what was said behind closed doors..

but I guess people still think he should explain bit by bit what he told the team

How can it possibly benefit another team if he says "I was extremely disappointed with performance all-around. This week we made our guys put in some additional practice time, and our coaching staff spent individual time with each player going over tape to highlight the errors and - most importantly, what we need to do differently if we need to win."?

But that would just make too much sense.

I think we all know that. That is not the same as all of us not bitchin' about it.

Personally, I satiate myself by making fun of him. It is mostly for my own personal consumption when I do it, although I kinda like the way that HC from the Jets is rolling...he makes me laugh, plus I like a little smack/outspoken/guard down a taste from my "hero".

MM sucks at PR. That is different than sucking as a HC. When shit hits the fan, those PR skills can be handy in what is ultimately an entertainment business, even though I am personally not viewing it as such...wound way too tight about it to call it that. :thumbleft:

You just made me think... Is MM turning into Ned Yost?

Now...wait a second. That wouldn't be as easy as you think. After all, Brohm's passes arn't normally anywhere NEAR a human being, so it would be tough to pick him off. LOLOL!!!

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I dont think it has ANYTHING to do with benefiting another team.

I think it is more they want all negative things to stay behind closed door..Period....

but thats just me

I think that's right. The whole "fiasco" made them all "worse", too. I was listening to Cowherd (I know everyone hates him but me, but whaddya gonna do in your car, listen to music or somethin'?) - Cowherd was talking about college football coaches and the media.

He was making the point that many college football coaches "own" their town, in the sense that they control the local media, that relies upon them. An adjunct to that is that they don't give much of a damn about what they disseminate to the local media, as their organization doesn't rely upon it. The only time they start being deferential or informative,,or the opposite...very guarded...is when the national media starts showing up.

He went on to say that the NFL coaches in the big markets are far more likely to be at least a little more deferential to the media, because the organizations that they represent want and need them to be. I think he mentioned Green Bay as one of the exceptions to this rule, and I think he further went on to say how "they are not used" to the kind of media (national) that descended upon them due to that "fiasco".

Remember, this is the organization that went and got a politico for PR purposes. They are way used to having (relatively speaking) softballs thrown their way. That quasi-cozy relationship is being dismantled by the competition for information, the switch to a web-based source of information--all kinds of reasons. In the net big scheme of things, it is probably a good thing, but our organization seems resistant to the change, as they came to many of these realizations as a result of the whole retire/unretire/retire thingy.

Why a good thing? Just look at what is happening with the local media. GBPG has become one hell of a lot more tech-savvy--- everybody there is now blogging, we get to learn what is going on practice, etc. JsOnline is running neck and neck with them at those practices, blogs in practical real time from all of them...We get all kinds of information that used to take--God forbid-- almost a DAY to get (can you imagine :thumbleft: ) due to some of this shift in the way we get our news.

Thing is, we don't get enough of it--relatively speaking--from where we want it...The Packers themselves. They have to rely on a passionate fanbase, moreso than any other franchise, which means their version has to be carefully orchestrated whenever possible. This is way too long, and really only begins to crack/broach some of my opinions...sorry.

One thing about McCarthy, that drives me nuts, is that he never shows the fire I want to see from the HC. Has he ever gotten in the face of a player that messed up? We know there have been many chances. I can't recall a time. His press conferences are all watered down, politically correct nonsense. Once i would like him to show a little emotion. Seeing him come out with a "Playoffs, did you say playoffs" or "They are who we thought they were" type remark that actually shows he might give a shit.

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just watching recaps of the game.... MAN, if we can play that badly, and still only come up 10 yards shy of tying the game, I gotta think we can correct this stuff. I mean, when have you seen us play that poorly in recent memory? And we still came up only 10 yards shy of a tie. Theycan fix this stuff.

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Finley last year, behind closed doors they werent having tea


It is not his style to berate a player in the media....

Why don't people understand that?

Question....Last few SB participants coaches how many of them have you seen attack their players in the media?

I do not know of any times it has happened..

I agree. Those rants to the media tend to be desperation moves by coaches of teams who are not doing well.

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Example would have been Sunday, when they pulled Bush because of his second false start. Would have like to see MM go up to him and give him a quick piece of his mind. Doesn't have to berate, but say something.

As for a presser quote, something that doesn't seem like a prepared watered down Crash Davis PC comment. Or at a minimum, alteast say the PC crap with a little emotion.

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It really is interesting to read Mike McCathy's press conferences, because for the most part, they are unintelligible. His sentences truly say nothing -- they must be painful just to transcribe. Personally, I don't even see a reason for these little events, since we learn less than nothing from them anyway.

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I personally think there are FAR too many of these press conferences. Let the man coach. He must waste 2 hours during each of these days preparing/giving press conferences. And they're useless.

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Sigh...

That isnt his style..How hard is it really to understand he will not do it..

Only reason people want to see it is because then they know for a fact he is getting mad at his players....

Voyeurism

Holmgren did it, and he embarrassed himself if you asked me..

Watch the miked up video, and you will see his emotions coming out...Or maybe even that isn't good enough..

I know he won't do it, which is one of the reasons I don't like him.

Watching the vid makes it worse. Rodgers gets sacked and he says to himself "Unbelievable" the next time, mumbles to himself again and waves the punt team out.

I was raised with coaches that got in my face when I messed up. Some more than others, but they all did it. It is what I like to see from a coach.

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You're right Packfan, we should go out and get Denny Green or Herm Edwards. That'd put us on top.

Sorry, but I call this a BS shallow reason for not liking a coach.

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I believe the statement I made was. "ONE of the reasons I dont' like him". There are more, but since this was about him in press conference, I left my complaints about the topic.

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I believe the statement I made was "A BS shallow reason..." not "the".

I just think that given our severely limited vantage point, it's difficult to gauge the impact of the coaching style in question. I'm sure that showing more emotion or getting in players' faces has been shown to be effective. That said, we're not talking about high school players here -- these are pros. Best way to shake guys up is to demonstrate how accountability works. The more I think about it, the Rouse cut is a positive.

And switching gears here, but a close friend of mine who worships the Colts (and thus knows a fair amount about them) had only good things to say about Giordano.

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Whether it is deserved or not, there are some rumblings about MM effectiveness as a coach due to the performance of the team during the first two games.

The fans and media have expectations about GB's performance and the last two games have fallen short of those.

I still like MM as a coach and was impressed with what I saw during the miked up video but I want to see this team dramatically improve against the Rams.

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