packman31
15 years ago
How can the refs call some of those penalties like the one that gave the bears a first down in the 4th quarter and get away with it. It could of cost the game, is there some type of review that the nfl could look at ?
blank
Rockmolder
15 years ago
It's confusion. It happens. It was quite a bad call, though. It was an illegal formation, but since they missed it, it turned into a bad illegal contact play, as the receiver lined up 6 yards from Harris, instead of the 5 that he should've (Like Collinsworth said).
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
I would like to see something done about calls. There are some that are just to bad to let go. Somehow use the replay to make sure the correct call is made. No, coaches calling for penalty reviews, but the booth should be able to call down and say, hey, you go that one wrong, before the next play.

If the network can replay 5 times between snaps, so can the booth.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Stevetarded
15 years ago
I didn't really like that Spitz holding call at the end of the game on that long run by Grant either.
blank
Pack93z
15 years ago

I would like to see something done about calls. There are some that are just to bad to let go. Somehow use the replay to make sure the correct call is made. No, coaches calling for penalty reviews, but the booth should be able to call down and say, hey, you go that one wrong, before the next play.

If the network can replay 5 times between snaps, so can the booth.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Here is the rub IMO, where do you draw the line?

On a majority of the plays in this league, some type of infraction could be called.. holding being first and foremost.

Do you say, only review the called penalties? Then what about the missed calls? If you include the missed calls, then you are opening up Pandora's box...

Crews get reviews weekly by the head of NFL officiating.. probably with fines for excessive or horrendously blown calls..

But missed or bad calls are part of the game.. like it or not.

But pre-snap fouls to be missed.. that is sad.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
musccy
15 years ago
pack93 is right...refs are already reviewed for their performance.

The illegal contact was a HORRIBLE call, but Harris got away with P.I. on the interception that ended the game.

There are 60 minutes/game, and dropped passes, missed blocks, blown coverages etc. are all much more influential than 1 or 2 missed calls.

They're only human. Try reffing an 8 year old soccer game, listen to the parents and then come back and tell me how easy it'd be to ref an NFL game.
nerdmann
15 years ago
Week after week officials make phantom calls that sway the results of games. It just seems like too many of these calls are in such key situations.
Harris's phantom PI should have been a penalty on the Bears for illegal formation. But then it goes against us, and keeps the scoring drive alive.
Then what was the deal with the lengthy review? It was a meaningless score, except that it put us over the spread. Weird.
Every since the Superbowl where the Seahawks got ripped, the integrity of the game has been in question.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Rios39
15 years ago

pack93 is right...refs are already reviewed for their performance.

The illegal contact was a HORRIBLE call, but Harris got away with P.I. on the interception that ended the game.

There are 60 minutes/game, and dropped passes, missed blocks, blown coverages etc. are all much more influential than 1 or 2 missed calls.

They're only human. Try reffing an 8 year old soccer game, listen to the parents and then come back and tell me how easy it'd be to ref an NFL game.

"musccy" wrote:



It's not really PI because Al Harris had his eyes on the ball and the receiver didn't. So Harris should be entitled to fight to catch the ball.
blank
mkapp
15 years ago
I agree with above - networks show replay after replay between plays, why cant the booth do the same and call down if there is a bad call?

OR

why not allow a coach to challenge penalty calls too? same number of challenges per game, and same cost of timeouts if they lose. let the team decide what is a game-changing call.
UserPostedImage
djcubez
15 years ago
It's stupid. We have all the technology to make sure that these kind of situations don't happen but they do. Hell, the Cowboys are getting "do-overs" this year for their stadium, why can't the NFL hire 4-5 people to sit in a replay booth during games and watch every play after it happened and examine where the ball should be placed. The refs should merely be the on-field assistants to the replay booths. The booth would have constant communication to the head ref and tell him where to spot the ball at the end of the play, where to mark the first down and more. The refs would call penalties, but each penalty would be reviewed before the ref actually makes the call. i.e., Packers score touchdown but offensive interference is called on the receiver. Instead of calling the penalty like normal and enacting it the booth would watch the play, determine if there was INDISPUTABLE (key word) evidence to overturn the call on the field and let the head ref know before the final call is made. I doubt it would delay the game as replays are available so quick now. And it's not like they have to take a super close look at it, just determine if it was a good call or not. If it was obviously bad, they'd overturn it but otherwise let it stay.

Sure you can call it opening up pandora's box but if it's done right you don't have to worry about it. Like I said the technology is in place to do this. In fact, in the future I could see them putting GPS devices on the tip of each ball and have a threshold mark at the first down marker. If the balls crosses the threshold, first down no questions asked because they'll know if the ball crossed the plane and when.

All in all I don't think it's really that hard to institute and regulate. The technology is in place now and I'm sure many of the people are willing. The problem is that there's so much else on the table for league officials and owners, they can't take the time to even introduce some kind of official change. It's not like it can be changed with a snap of the fingers, they'd have to focus solely on this subject for an entire offseason, which is why I don't see anything being done about the way penalties are called now. Simply because it's too much work right now to change.
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (21h) : rude
    Mucky Tundra (21h) : RIP Frank Ragnow
    Mucky Tundra (21h) : @E_Woodyard #Lions HC Dan Campbell says they're gonna put Frank Ragnow down this week. "We've got to be smart," Campbell said.
    bboystyle (25-Sep) : Favre using the pitty card during that hearing for his criminal acts
    Zero2Cool (24-Sep) : Former Packers QB Brett Favre recently announced he was diagnosed with Parkinson's.
    Zero2Cool (24-Sep) : The only QBs this season with 0 turnover-worthy plays according to PFF (minimum 30 dropbacks) Aaron Rodgers Malik Willis Justin Fields
    Mucky Tundra (23-Sep) : @DavidBearmanPFN · 18h Vegas has watched Will Levis for 3 weeks and installed them as a 1-point favorite in Miami next week. Let that sink
    Mucky Tundra (23-Sep) : Martha, they did play much better with Dalton yesterday
    Zero2Cool (23-Sep) : Test results on Sam Darnold’s knee showed a knee bruise and no structural damage. He is not expected to miss any time.
    Martha Careful (23-Sep) : Not with Dalton apparently
    Mucky Tundra (23-Sep) : Not sure what to make of the NFC South so far this season (outside of the Panthers being a dumpster fire)
    Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : of course I say that and then they overturn that play that put them on the 49ers 2 yard line
    Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : *without
    Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : Even with Nacua and Kupp out, Rams looking fiesty on offense
    Martha Careful (22-Sep) : Tim Boyle is playing for the Dolphins
    Martha Careful (22-Sep) : I love seeing Dallas lose
    Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : The Red Rifle is on fire in Las Vegas! 3 TDs in the first half!
    Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : @mattschneidman · 2m The fire alarm is going off inside the Packers locker room here in Nashville.
    Mucky Tundra (22-Sep) : Gonna need a drink after looking at my picks for the early games in Pick'em
    Zero2Cool (22-Sep) : James Jones. Y’all must not know, Dr. Mackenzie🤣 he was not going to let Jordan love play today.
    Zero2Cool (22-Sep) : Malik to start. Love inactive. Per report. Let's go!!
    buckeyepackfan (22-Sep) : I think J-10VE will be inactive, a little twist that could be put in is run a wildcat with Wicks at qb. Have him as emergency qb if needed.
    Zero2Cool (21-Sep) : I think that's how it works.
    Zero2Cool (21-Sep) : I'd go 3 QB regardless this game.
    Zero2Cool (21-Sep) : Clifford was elevated, not activated. He doesn't play, it doesn't count.
    hardrocker950 (21-Sep) : If Clifford is active, not likely to see Jordan play this weekend
    Mucky Tundra (21-Sep) : QB Sean Clifford and CB Robert Rochell elevated from the PS for the Titans game
    Zero2Cool (20-Sep) : Love questionable. Morgan is out. Valentine is doubtful
    Martha Careful (20-Sep) : Rodgers and Lazard off to a very strong start
    Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : Josh Jacobs. Limited.
    Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : Can't find anything on Jacobs :(
    wpr (19-Sep) : Do you know if they gave Jacobs an extra day off? I hope so.
    Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : WR Jayden Reed (calf) and G Elgton Jenkins (illness/glute) returned after sitting out Wednesday.
    Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : Packers are in pads and so is Jordan Love. Second straight day of practice for QB1.
    bboystyle (18-Sep) : If Love comes back, we win in a blow out
    Zero2Cool (18-Sep) : Jordan Love just spoke with reporters and said he’s giving himself the week but hopeful to play Sunday against the Titans.
    Zero2Cool (18-Sep) : Practicing is Jordan Love!
    Zero2Cool (18-Sep) : Packers are signing WR Cornelius Johnson to the Practice Squad per sources. Johnson was a 7th round pick this year.
    Zero2Cool (17-Sep) : Packers placed RB MarShawn Lloyd on injured reserve.
    Zero2Cool (16-Sep) : Rams won’t have Cooper Kupp or Puka Nacua when they host the Packers in Week 5.
    Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : Or is that the Rusty Red Rifle because of his age?
    Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : The Red Rifle Returns!
    Zero2Cool (16-Sep) : Panthers are benching former No. 1 overall pick Bryce Young and starting veteran Andy Dalton beginning this week.
    Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : bears still have slim chance here
    Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : and there's another one!
    Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : oh crap macbob has the Texans K and he keeps hitting these long FGs
    Mucky Tundra (15-Sep) : Hope the Texans beat the brakes off the Bears
    Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : LaFleur: “I asked Malik why he didn’t throw it on that third down and he told me Josh threw up on the ball.”
    Mucky Tundra (15-Sep) : i was wondering why it was just you, me, beast and macbob by the end
    Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : Yeah it was weird today for some reason
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
    Vikings
    Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
    BEARS
    Recent Topics
    3m / Green Bay Packers Talk / civic

    47m / Around The NFL / beast

    3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    3h / Random Babble / wpr

    26-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    25-Sep / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

    25-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    25-Sep / GameDay Threads / wpr

    24-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    23-Sep / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

    23-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    23-Sep / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

    23-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    23-Sep / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.