dhpackr
14 years ago
that run may have cost Rodgers much more than a playoff loss. Its his second concussion this season. A third may cause his retirement.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

I wonder if Greg C. still finds it "touching" when people express respect for the team the Lions organization has fielded this year.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



What I meant by that was that I think the praise for the Lions this year has been way over the top considering how little they have accomplished on the field. I saw the same thing when Rod Marinelli was the coach. I think in both cases the praise has been based more on sympathy than football analysis. I give the Lions a lot of credit for yesterday's win. They finally have a win now that they can hang their hat on and maybe use to build on moving forward. The wins over the Rams and Redskins earlier this year were not those kind of wins.

Also, I think that the Lions' improvement is due mostly to the addition of blue chip players in the draft because of their consistently awful win-loss records. What I've been waiting for is to see some lower drafted players and free agents to start contributing. I saw that yesterday with their defensive line, and their patchwork secondary was able to hold it together well enough, although the poor performance of the Packers' backup QB had a lot to do with that. But another plus for the Lions was that their offense got a TD in the fourth quarter when they needed one, against a good defense. So this game was definitely a step in the right direction for them.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Greg, I agree with you. I've said several times that Rodgers is not a running quarterback in the traditional sense, which is one of the many reasons why I like him. My concern stems from the fact that it seems to be becoming increasingly necessary for Rodgers to make play on his feet to keep drives alive. It's gone beyond being a pleasant bonus to becoming almost an integral part of the offense. That, I believe, does not bode well for the future.
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yooperfan
14 years ago
How embarassing to be beaten by the 3rd string QB of the losingest team over the last decade.
Pack93z
14 years ago

I wonder if Greg C. still finds it "touching" when people express respect for the team the Lions organization has fielded this year.

"Greg C." wrote:



What I meant by that was that I think the praise for the Lions this year has been way over the top considering how little they have accomplished on the field. I saw the same thing when Rod Marinelli was the coach. I think in both cases the praise has been based more on sympathy than football analysis. I give the Lions a lot of credit for yesterday's win. They finally have a win now that they can hang their hat on and maybe use to build on moving forward. The wins over the Rams and Redskins earlier this year were not those kind of wins.

Also, I think that the Lions' improvement is due mostly to the addition of blue chip players in the draft because of their consistently awful win-loss records. What I've been waiting for is to see some lower drafted players and free agents to start contributing. I saw that yesterday with their defensive line, and their patchwork secondary was able to hold it together well enough, although the poor performance of the Packers' backup QB had a lot to do with that. But another plus for the Lions was that their offense got a TD in the fourth quarter when they needed one, against a good defense. So this game was definitely a step in the right direction for them.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



So you can remove one 'horrible' from a post when it fits your argument? ;)

Seriously.. where the difference is drawn is that the Lions turned the corner in the front office with the removal of Millen, accumulating talent and depth that actually can play on Sundays.

I agree with have more work to do yet.. but overcoming years of mismanagement and poor personnel decisions from Millen, squandering some of those Blue Chip picks.

They have been competitive and played teams like the Patriots well into the second half.. yesterday Cunningham schemed a defense utilizing speed and inside power (Suh and Corey Williams) to take advantage of our weakness.. and beat us down with it.

I hope for their own good, the Lions give this coaching staff another season to let some of their work there mature.. well not from our perspective, because IMO that team is coming on.
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dfosterf
14 years ago
Oh, they will. Schwartz has his shit together. I think most Lions fans know that, lord knows, they know what "bad" looks like, and he isn't it.

They are going to be a pain in the ass in the North for a long time to come, and will get more firepower this draft too.
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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I literally just said it.
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