Pack93z
15 years ago
This 85 foot rule is interesting.. here is a copy of the NFL official rulebook where the playing surface is discussed in depth.. nothing noted about 85 foot rule above the surface.

Why 2006... in the middle of the playing stages of this billion dollar venue.. chapter one..the field.

http://blogmedia.thenewstribune.com/media/2006%20NFL%20RULEBOOK.pdf 
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Oddly enough, that link crashed my Firefox, so I can't read it.
UserPostedImage
Pack93z
15 years ago

Oddly enough, that link crashed my Firefox, so I can't read it.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Weird.. I am using firefox.. just the complete rule book describing all the "legal" field requirements... no mention of any obstructions over the surface and no 85 foot rule..

I think the NFL very well may have blown this one as well.. but does that absolve Jones of any responsibility in this oversight.. since he shelled out the money and stamped the approvals.. I think the first blush of blame falls on his shoulders.

Overall.. probably not that big of deal.. but it doesn't change my perception of the jackass.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I just tried it again and it crashed my Firefox again.

But I totally agree with you on that regard. This is overblown, and I'm certainly not defending Jerry Jones because I like the guy. I'm just trying, in my own futile way, to stem the tide of media demonization of everyone in sight.
UserPostedImage
Tezzy
15 years ago
I like how the NFL already added in special instant replay rules for JJ's scoreboard. Must be good to be the King.
On top of every beard grows a man.
"The Bears are shell-shocked... and it's breaking my heart."
Formo
15 years ago

Oddly enough, that link crashed my Firefox, so I can't read it.

"pack93z" wrote:



Weird.. I am using firefox.. just the complete rule book describing all the "legal" field requirements... no mention of any obstructions over the surface and no 85 foot rule..

I think the NFL very well may have blown this one as well.. but does that absolve Jones of any responsibility in this oversight.. since he shelled out the money and stamped the approvals.. I think the first blush of blame falls on his shoulders.

Overall.. probably not that big of deal.. but it doesn't change my perception of the jackass.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Like I said.. The NFL is more to blame. According to many media sources, the rule is 85 feet above the playing surface. Jones put his TV at 90 feet. The plans HAD to be reviewed and approved by the NFL in some way. I think it's really obvious that because of 'The Punt', the NFL realized they dropped the ball. And instead of shelling out the money to move the sucker, they made a rule to specifically cover any coming issues that'll come with that giant TV.

Now, yes.. I agree with you on the part that Jones DOES have some responsibility with this. I know that the Colts owner tested Lucas Oil stadium with some punters and such.. And eventually had their big screens put up off to the sides/corners because of the tests. Should Jones have done that? Yeah, probably. Was it mandated? Who knows. Maybe that's another thing the NFL has to do in order to prevent any future issues.

I like how the NFL already added in special instant replay rules for JJ's scoreboard. Must be good to be the King.

"Tezzy" wrote:



Or they realized and KNOW that the blame falls on the NFL, NOT Jerry Jones.
UserPostedImage
Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
Pack93z
15 years ago


Like I said.. The NFL is more to blame. According to many media sources, the rule is 85 feet above the playing surface. Jones put his TV at 90 feet. The plans HAD to be reviewed and approved by the NFL in some way. I think it's really obvious that because of 'The Punt', the NFL realized they dropped the ball. And instead of shelling out the money to move the sucker, they made a rule to specifically cover any coming issues that'll come with that giant TV.

"Formo" wrote:



And like I linked.. the official NFL rulebook has nothing in it about the 85 foot rule.. 😉
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Formo
15 years ago


Like I said.. The NFL is more to blame. According to many media sources, the rule is 85 feet above the playing surface. Jones put his TV at 90 feet. The plans HAD to be reviewed and approved by the NFL in some way. I think it's really obvious that because of 'The Punt', the NFL realized they dropped the ball. And instead of shelling out the money to move the sucker, they made a rule to specifically cover any coming issues that'll come with that giant TV.

"pack93z" wrote:



And like I linked.. the official NFL rulebook has nothing in it about the 85 foot rule.. ;)

"Formo" wrote:



Which is why I said media sources... I don't know if that NFL rulebook has ALL the rules/regulations the NFL has. And citing media sources removes the possibility of me being called out for being 'wrong' by all the bookworm nerds. 😛
UserPostedImage
Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
Pack93z
15 years ago


Like I said.. The NFL is more to blame. According to many media sources, the rule is 85 feet above the playing surface. Jones put his TV at 90 feet. The plans HAD to be reviewed and approved by the NFL in some way. I think it's really obvious that because of 'The Punt', the NFL realized they dropped the ball. And instead of shelling out the money to move the sucker, they made a rule to specifically cover any coming issues that'll come with that giant TV.

"Formo" wrote:



And like I linked.. the official NFL rulebook has nothing in it about the 85 foot rule.. ;)

"pack93z" wrote:



Which is why I said media sources... I don't know if that NFL rulebook has ALL the rules/regulations the NFL has. And citing media sources removes the possibility of me being called out for being 'wrong' by all the bookworm nerds. =P

"Formo" wrote:



LOL.. check out that rulebook.. it is intense the amount of detail they put into the small things such as striping sizes and locations.. lol..

I just like calling out the media when possible.. we all know they check things out so thoroughly.. one reports something they think and the rest [strike]site [/strike] cite them as the source.. lol.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
nyrpack
15 years ago

Jerry Jones complied with all regulations. If the NFL had a problem with it, they should have intervened before the stadium was constructed. This is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. If a dumbass punter can't kick around a television display, I don't think he deserves to be collecting his millions.

"pack93z" wrote:



Disagree... to a point.. this is a faulty design in the first place.. whom in their non egotistical mind would construct a billion dollar stadium with an intrusion into the playing area?

Would one not logically conduct a study on the clearance needed from playing surface upwards to ensure that it would not intrude upon the game?

Logic tells you, yes, that would be the case. It will impede the games at times... is it a huge deal no.. but it still is an obstruction that shouldn't be.

Jerry's response to the whole matter is classic Jerry "F%&king" Jones... they say everything in Texas is bigger.. it might not hold truth across the boards.. but Jerry's ego fits the mantra.

Genuine pompous asshole.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:


thankyou now i feel a little better about my sentiment towards jerry jones !!
jimmy b.
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (8h) : Mahomes Magic baby! *cough*
TheKanataThrilla (8h) : KC the luckiest team in the league
Zero2Cool (12h) : Frigging host issues for site again
beast (12h) : For the first time in their long history, the Bears fire their head coach mid-season. Which comes after three very close in-division losses.
Zero2Cool (29-Nov) : At the game now. Kampman and Cullen Jenkins are here.
buckeyepackfan (29-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving Packer Fans! Gonna celebrate with some grilled Dolphin later!
buckeyepackfan (29-Nov) : Inactive 23 CB Jaire Alexander 56 LB Edgerrin Cooper 62 OL Jacob Monk 87 WR Romeo Doubs
dhazer (29-Nov) : Just a talking point, do we try and trade Jaire next year to get out from the contract as he can't stay healthy
Zero2Cool (28-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving! About to head to game.
wpr (28-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving
Martha Careful (28-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving Everybody...Go Packers!!!
Zero2Cool (28-Nov) : That is what a lot of people seem to think. Even though when he was on Giants, he was trash.
Martha Careful (27-Nov) : Brilliant move by Vikings!!! The signing provide great leverage in Darnold negotiations
Mucky Tundra (27-Nov) : Boo!
Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Packers have ruled out Jaire Alexander, Edgerrin Cooper, and Romeo Doubs for Thursday's game against the Dolphins.
Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Daniel Jones joins Vikings
Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Tomorrow high 32° and low 19°
beast (27-Nov) : Thanks Mucky!
Mucky Tundra (27-Nov) : beast, forecast is looking like 27-28 degrees at kickoff, slight chance of snow flurries
Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Oh? It wasn't on the injury report. That sucks, but it's what is best.
packerfanoutwest (26-Nov) : Doubs is out due to concussion
beast (26-Nov) : What does the weather look like?
Martha Careful (26-Nov) : You can wear long-johns mittens and a hat. We want Hill and their other skill guys FROZEN
Zero2Cool (26-Nov) : I'm not sure I hope for that. I'll be at the game.
Martha Careful (25-Nov) : I hope it is colder than a well-diggers ass on Thanksgiving night.
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : doubt he wants to face the speedsters
beast (25-Nov) : Dolphins offense can be explosive... I wonder if we'll have Alexander back
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : No Doubs could be issue Thursday
Mucky Tundra (25-Nov) : Bears. Santos. Blocked FG
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Bears. Vikings. OT
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Thems the breaks I guess
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Two players out and Williams had an injury designation this week but Oladapo is a healthy scratch
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Packers inactives vs 49ers: • CB Jaire Alexander • S Kitan Oladapo • LB Edgerrin Cooper • OL Jacob Monk
TheKanataThrilla (24-Nov) : Aaron Jones with a costly red zone fumble
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : When we trade Malik for a 1st rounder, we'll need a new QB2.
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : Report: Aaron Rodgers wants to play in 2025, but not for the Jets
beast (23-Nov) : That's what I told the Police officer about my speed when he pulled me over
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : NFL told Bears that Packers’ blocked field goal was legal
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
Zero2Cool (22-Nov) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

19h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

27-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

26-Nov / Featured Content / Martha Careful

26-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / GameDay Threads / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.