15 years ago

But then i realized these plays and schemes we are running are basic vanilla plays... We arent showing our plays that we would call during the regular season....these plays we are calling are very basic and very expected of us...

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:




You make a VERY good point - Capers' playbook on D is at least 2.5 inches thick (if you believe what Anthony Smith and other reporters have said). There are 83 defenses to learn, as Nick Barnett has pointed out. No way the Packers have even revealed half of their hand yet.


I'm beginning to think more and more that Capers has been utilizing a lot of base calls that naturally incorporate a blitz in them. If true, this alone is a FAR cry from the defenses of Bob Sanders.

"bboystyle" wrote:



Capers said that they aren't putting in team/scheme specific blitzes to counter other teams this preseason (i.e. game planning). They are just testing out various blitz packages that they will be using most if not all of the games in the regular season. Sort of their staple array of blitzes, and probably not even all of those.

I find it amusing that Wisenhunt keeps whining about the Packers "game planning" for the game and Arizona not, like the offense's flawless execution was merely a product of "game planning".
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15 years ago


Capers said that they aren't putting in team/scheme specific blitzes to counter other teams this preseason (i.e. game planning). They are just testing out various blitz packages that they will be using most if not all of the games in the regular season. Sort of their staple array of blitzes, and probably not even all of those.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



i just came.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


gbguy20
15 years ago
I'm sure there is plenty of film on former capers defenses that would reveal a lot of what the packers haven't shown yet. I realize it wouldn't be the same team and all, but i'm sure most of the packages he brought to GB he has used plenty with his former defenses.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

I'm sure there is plenty of film on former capers defenses that would reveal a lot of what the packers haven't shown yet. I realize it wouldn't be the same team and all, but i'm sure most of the packages he brought to GB he has used plenty with his former defenses.

"gbguy20" wrote:



That's a pretty good point. Point is, you can't watch years of film on one opponent. Especially if half the plays won't be run anymore. I reckon that he hasn't been sitting still, though, and that he has drawn up quite a few plays that fit the GB personel, as well.

Although I do think that there might be some plays that he will carry through to this defense. There will be some footage to look at, but I don't think that other teams will gain too much from it.
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15 years ago

But then i realized these plays and schemes we are running are basic vanilla plays... We arent showing our plays that we would call during the regular season....these plays we are calling are very basic and very expected of us...

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:




You make a VERY good point - Capers' playbook on D is at least 2.5 inches thick (if you believe what Anthony Smith and other reporters have said). There are 83 defenses to learn, as Nick Barnett has pointed out. No way the Packers have even revealed half of their hand yet.

"bboystyle" wrote:



Well, true. OTOH, the players also haven't shown they can execute the entire playbook either.

Over the years I've lost count of how many students I've seen who go gangbusters on the material of the first exam and then plateau for a long time before the "other stuff" starts to connect.

Of course I've also had even more who tank that first exam, only to explode a bit later.

What are pretty darn rare are those who start fast and then accelerate their understanding.

I have no idea, though, whether the same learning curve applies to NFL football playbooks.
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dyeah_gb
15 years ago
Some of the points made here have me very excited about Capers as our DC.

It is one thing to have a complex playbook but another to get the players to execute it properly. If Capers can do both we are going to have an exciting season. I wonder if diligence towards the complexities of the defense led to this discussion on cutting of Anthony Smith:

http://packershome.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=5817 
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LambeauEast
15 years ago
Can I please hear the "the Lions went 4-0 in the preseason last year" argument again PLEASE?!
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Stevetarded
15 years ago
I don't think this team has looked that good. I mean if you look at the Lions last year they went 4-0 in the preseason.
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LambeauEast
15 years ago

I don't think this team has looked that good. I mean if you look at the Lions last year they went 4-0 in the preseason.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



LOL, touch'e!
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I think last night should put a rest to this line of thought, as most of us thought it would.
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