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So sick of hearing about the Cowboys, Favre, Plaxico, Pacman, Ocho Cinco, TO, etc etc etc... Punters, don't kick at their jumbotron in warmups. Jerry Jones, stop talking...
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i wonder how many punts it'll take to wreck the screens?
What happens if it breaks and falls on the field as a result of a punt? (long shot i know)
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plan and simple the guy is a idiot who is able to do everything he wants to do, i just hope one day when he comes down to the field during the game someone steamrolls right over him so he never comes down where he doesnt belong in the 1st place !!

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As it relates to this issue.. How is Jones able to do everything he wants to?

He applied his stadium plans to the league and got it's approval. He put his big screen 5 feet above the regulations for any structure above said field. How is Jones wrong?

Look, I understand people not liking him. Trust me. I also know that when the Colts built their stadium, they actually brought their punter in to see if he could hit a steel beam that was at the projected height of their big screen. Since he hit that beam 50% of the time, they decided to put their screens in opposite corners of the stadium. Jones could have done that, and I understand this. My point is.. Jones did EVERYTHING the league asked for. Therefore, that's why the rule change. The NFL knows it was their bad. They don't want to fork over the money to move it.

Again, I understand peoples hatred for the Cowgirls. But to put the blame on them versus who's fault it REALLY is... Is ignorant.
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15 years ago

plan and simple the guy is a idiot who is able to do everything he wants to do, i just hope one day when he comes down to the field during the game someone steamrolls right over him so he never comes down where he doesnt belong in the 1st place !!

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Normally I try to stay hands off when it comes to tenor of conversations, but I feel compelled to state that rabid foaming at the mouth like this does nothing to add to the conversation. Besides the fact it's not supported with any kinds of facts or logic, it's patently wrong. Jerry Jones complied with all regulations; it's not like the NFL granted him some sort of special exemption. If the regulations are faulty, it's the NFL's responsibility to update them. I don't see why this is such an emotional issue for some people.
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my friend at work is a huge cowboy fan, he said, a pizza at the game will cost around 72 $ , i dont know f its a luxury box price or regular seat price, but this sounds insane if true !!
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15 years ago
Jerry Jones complied with all regulations. If the NFL had a problem with it, they should have intervened before the stadium was constructed. This is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. If a dumbass punter can't kick around a television display, I don't think he deserves to be collecting his millions.
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Jerry Jones complied with all regulations. If the NFL had a problem with it, they should have intervened before the stadium was constructed. This is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. If a dumbass punter can't kick around a television display, I don't think he deserves to be collecting his millions.

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Disagree... to a point.. this is a faulty design in the first place.. whom in their non egotistical mind would construct a billion dollar stadium with an intrusion into the playing area?

Would one not logically conduct a study on the clearance needed from playing surface upwards to ensure that it would not intrude upon the game?

Logic tells you, yes, that would be the case. It will impede the games at times... is it a huge deal no.. but it still is an obstruction that shouldn't be.

Jerry's response to the whole matter is classic Jerry "F%&king" Jones... they say everything in Texas is bigger.. it might not hold truth across the boards.. but Jerry's ego fits the mantra.

Genuine pompous asshole.
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15 years ago
Regardless, responsibility for this rests squarely on the NFL. Their regulation was and remains 85 feet. Jones' plan called for 90 feet of clearance. The NFL should have done some computer modeling to determine if that would be sufficient clearance for today's punter, and if it weren't, changed the regulation and/or demanded that Jones alter his plans. We can't be faulting Jones retroactively for a plan to which no one objected before it was implemented.
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15 years ago
Your defense has been on the field way too long. You finally get your offense on the field again. The offense goes 3 and out. The defense is too tired to get back into the game... that scoreboard might come in mighty handy to keep them on that bench for a little longer. Lol.
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15 years ago
Rock, your dynamic avatars always disturb me. lol
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This 85 foot rule is interesting.. here is a copy of the NFL official rulebook where the playing surface is discussed in depth.. nothing noted about 85 foot rule above the surface.

Why 2006... in the middle of the playing stages of this billion dollar venue.. chapter one..the field.

http://blogmedia.thenewstribune.com/media/2006%20NFL%20RULEBOOK.pdf 
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15 years ago
Oddly enough, that link crashed my Firefox, so I can't read it.
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Oddly enough, that link crashed my Firefox, so I can't read it.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Weird.. I am using firefox.. just the complete rule book describing all the "legal" field requirements... no mention of any obstructions over the surface and no 85 foot rule..

I think the NFL very well may have blown this one as well.. but does that absolve Jones of any responsibility in this oversight.. since he shelled out the money and stamped the approvals.. I think the first blush of blame falls on his shoulders.

Overall.. probably not that big of deal.. but it doesn't change my perception of the jackass.
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15 years ago
I just tried it again and it crashed my Firefox again.

But I totally agree with you on that regard. This is overblown, and I'm certainly not defending Jerry Jones because I like the guy. I'm just trying, in my own futile way, to stem the tide of media demonization of everyone in sight.
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I like how the NFL already added in special instant replay rules for JJ's scoreboard. Must be good to be the King.
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Oddly enough, that link crashed my Firefox, so I can't read it.

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Weird.. I am using firefox.. just the complete rule book describing all the "legal" field requirements... no mention of any obstructions over the surface and no 85 foot rule..

I think the NFL very well may have blown this one as well.. but does that absolve Jones of any responsibility in this oversight.. since he shelled out the money and stamped the approvals.. I think the first blush of blame falls on his shoulders.

Overall.. probably not that big of deal.. but it doesn't change my perception of the jackass.

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Like I said.. The NFL is more to blame. According to many media sources, the rule is 85 feet above the playing surface. Jones put his TV at 90 feet. The plans HAD to be reviewed and approved by the NFL in some way. I think it's really obvious that because of 'The Punt', the NFL realized they dropped the ball. And instead of shelling out the money to move the sucker, they made a rule to specifically cover any coming issues that'll come with that giant TV.

Now, yes.. I agree with you on the part that Jones DOES have some responsibility with this. I know that the Colts owner tested Lucas Oil stadium with some punters and such.. And eventually had their big screens put up off to the sides/corners because of the tests. Should Jones have done that? Yeah, probably. Was it mandated? Who knows. Maybe that's another thing the NFL has to do in order to prevent any future issues.

I like how the NFL already added in special instant replay rules for JJ's scoreboard. Must be good to be the King.

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Or they realized and KNOW that the blame falls on the NFL, NOT Jerry Jones.
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Like I said.. The NFL is more to blame. According to many media sources, the rule is 85 feet above the playing surface. Jones put his TV at 90 feet. The plans HAD to be reviewed and approved by the NFL in some way. I think it's really obvious that because of 'The Punt', the NFL realized they dropped the ball. And instead of shelling out the money to move the sucker, they made a rule to specifically cover any coming issues that'll come with that giant TV.

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And like I linked.. the official NFL rulebook has nothing in it about the 85 foot rule.. 😉
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Like I said.. The NFL is more to blame. According to many media sources, the rule is 85 feet above the playing surface. Jones put his TV at 90 feet. The plans HAD to be reviewed and approved by the NFL in some way. I think it's really obvious that because of 'The Punt', the NFL realized they dropped the ball. And instead of shelling out the money to move the sucker, they made a rule to specifically cover any coming issues that'll come with that giant TV.

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And like I linked.. the official NFL rulebook has nothing in it about the 85 foot rule.. ;)

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Which is why I said media sources... I don't know if that NFL rulebook has ALL the rules/regulations the NFL has. And citing media sources removes the possibility of me being called out for being 'wrong' by all the bookworm nerds. 😛
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Like I said.. The NFL is more to blame. According to many media sources, the rule is 85 feet above the playing surface. Jones put his TV at 90 feet. The plans HAD to be reviewed and approved by the NFL in some way. I think it's really obvious that because of 'The Punt', the NFL realized they dropped the ball. And instead of shelling out the money to move the sucker, they made a rule to specifically cover any coming issues that'll come with that giant TV.

"Formo" wrote:



And like I linked.. the official NFL rulebook has nothing in it about the 85 foot rule.. ;)

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Which is why I said media sources... I don't know if that NFL rulebook has ALL the rules/regulations the NFL has. And citing media sources removes the possibility of me being called out for being 'wrong' by all the bookworm nerds. =P

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LOL.. check out that rulebook.. it is intense the amount of detail they put into the small things such as striping sizes and locations.. lol..

I just like calling out the media when possible.. we all know they check things out so thoroughly.. one reports something they think and the rest [strike]site [/strike] cite them as the source.. lol.
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Jerry Jones complied with all regulations. If the NFL had a problem with it, they should have intervened before the stadium was constructed. This is a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. If a dumbass punter can't kick around a television display, I don't think he deserves to be collecting his millions.

"pack93z" wrote:



Disagree... to a point.. this is a faulty design in the first place.. whom in their non egotistical mind would construct a billion dollar stadium with an intrusion into the playing area?

Would one not logically conduct a study on the clearance needed from playing surface upwards to ensure that it would not intrude upon the game?

Logic tells you, yes, that would be the case. It will impede the games at times... is it a huge deal no.. but it still is an obstruction that shouldn't be.

Jerry's response to the whole matter is classic Jerry "F%&king" Jones... they say everything in Texas is bigger.. it might not hold truth across the boards.. but Jerry's ego fits the mantra.

Genuine pompous asshole.

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thankyou now i feel a little better about my sentiment towards jerry jones !!
jimmy b.
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