Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I think Ted has taken risks and does not need (not saying you are implying he needs to) to take a risk on Vick to prove that.
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Pack93z
15 years ago

I think Ted has taken risks and does not need (not saying you are implying he needs to) to take a risk on Vick to prove that.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:




Correct.. I am not saying he needs to make this move.. but if he should, that cements any notion of the thought. Although I think Jimmy Hoffa and that notion have about the same amount covering them at the moment.. 😉
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Greg C.
15 years ago

Why would BOTH Flynn and Brohm be inactive on gameday? You usually carry in 3 QB's in a game.

"blueleopard" wrote:



What Nonstop was referring to there is the fact that the #3 QB cannot enter the game unless the #1 and #2 have both left the game with injuries. So that would mean that if you are using Vick for wildcat formations or anything, he would be the #2 QB--unless the coach was willing to sacrifice a gameday roster spot at some other position for him.

This thread certainly proves one thing: Fans love gimmick plays. Personally, I don't think it would be worth having Vick around for that reason. I don't think he belongs on an NFL roster when he's fresh out of prison anyway, and it's looking like all NFL GM's might be in agreement with me on this point. We'll see.
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15 years ago


This thread certainly proves one thing: Fans love gimmick plays.

"Greg C." wrote:



no.

the only thing this thread proves is that too many people are looking at this situation emotionally instead of logically. rational logic says we are FUCKED if Rodgers gets hurt. Vick, again...is not a gimmick. he's an incredible QB who obviously lives a shady personal life. hell, people fuck up. if he stays straight while signed here, why the hell not?

and please. it'd be as much of a PR hit as it would be a PR hit if you get my meaning. if they sign him to a contract which states *clearly* he will be let go and breaking contract if he pulls any kind of "whatever" it is you all think he'll do after a fucking dog-fighting ring...then he's gone.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


15 years ago
wait. Michael Phelps? the fuck? dude. don't bring strawmen to my campfire.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


Zero2Cool
15 years ago

wait. Michael Phelps? the fuck? dude. don't bring strawmen to my campfire.

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:

Thank you for proving my point. Not that I needed help, it was afterall, very obvious.
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15 years ago

Thank you for proving my point. Not that I needed help, it was afterall, very obvious.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



it was a strawman, not a point. we're talking about players in the NFL not some left-field abstracts which have nothing to do with the actual debate.

should i rephrase it for you?

Michael Vick is an outstanding athlete in the context of the NFL, more specifically at the position of quarterback, a position our team is sorely lacking in beyond our starter.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Thank you for proving my point. Not that I needed help, it was afterall, very obvious.

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:



it was a strawman, not a point. we're talking about players in the NFL not some left-field abstracts which have nothing to do with the actual debate.

should i rephrase it for you?

Michael Vick is an outstanding athlete in the context of the NFL, more specifically at the position of quarterback, a position our team is sorely lacking in beyond our starter.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



It was a point and you got it. Thanks.

Incredible athlete, yes, Vick is. Incredible QB, give me a break. Watch the man play the game. He's not an incredible QB. He's a helluva threat at the QB position because of his legs, not his arm or accuracy.
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
I wouldn't be upset if we got him. Yeah he fucked up. Bad. But he's done his time. They threw the book at him, and he went to prison. He killed some dogs. Yes it's inhumane, but they were just dogs. It's not like he drove drunk and killed a guy. If I went to prison, I'd hope that I could work after I got out. If our execs like him, I hope they do sign him. If not, then let him keep looking.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
The thing is, regardless of the criminal past, I don't think Vick helps us. No question, he's a phenomenal athlete. So was Ahman Carroll, LeShon Johnson, Travis Jervey, etc ... that doesn't mean they are phenomenal football players.

One thing I remember hearing over and over when we got rid of Sherman was we landed a GM who got us ... football players, not just great athletes.

Vick is a freak of nature, but not a freak at QB skills.

Regardless of his past, I don't think we'd go for Vick considering our QB situation and direction of our offense.
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