Zero2Cool
16 years ago
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Thompson won't rule out signing Vick
It wasn't an admission of interest, but Packers General Manager Ted Thompson had a chance this morning to shoot down the possibility of signing controversial quarterback Mike Vick.

And he passed.

Here's the exchange that ensued after I asked Thompson during today's press conference whether he'd entertain the possibility of signing Vick, who has completed his prison term for bankrolling a dogfighting ring and hopes to join an NFL team this year.

Thompson: (Long pause) "Uh ... what is the answer that we give to questions like this? We're always looking to improve our team, and we look at all options at all times. I wouldn't care to speculate in terms of the odds or the percentages or anything like that."

So, you have looked at him then?

Thompson: "We look at everything. Or, not everything. We don't look at stuff from like across the ocean or something."

Have there been any discussions on whether it's worth pursuing Vick?

Thompson: "We've had discussions about a large number of things, and we're always talking personnel -- different scenarios and things like that."

But this is a pretty unique guy, a different situation ...

Thompson: "But the routine we go through is the same. It doesn't mean any more that we're likely to do it or less likely -- it's a routine we go through. It's automatic."

This was typical for Thompson, because he believes personnel is private business and in many cases his stance is justified. But considering roughly two-thirds of NFL teams have flat-out stated they want nothing to do with Vick, Thompson's refusal to follow suit is puzzling.

Unless the Packers actually are interested.




edit, keep in mind, Ted has no children so that little line could be valid lol
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blueleopard
16 years ago

If they brought Vick in as a so-called "veteran backup," I'd be pissed off. We don't run that kind of offense, and thank God for that. I consider a run-first option defense to be an abomination and I hate watching it. If he was brought in for a limited role in a Wildcat package, I would not be opposed to that. The major problem I see with it is that it would seriously complicate our gameday roster. If he were active on gameday, that would mean both Brohm and Flynn would be inactive, which would make Vick our de facto backup if Rodgers went down. Ugh. If he were brought in as a running back, he would have to be incorporated into our regular progression as a running back (third down option, etc.), a development I think he would look at askance. So overall, bringing Vick in would either upset the balance in our locker room or necessitate a player being cut or traded.

So the question then becomes, which one of our current running backs or quarterbacks do you want to see go for an unproven backup who's eventually going to be bucking for the starting job? Remember, the chances are we'll get virtually nothing for them in a trade, so they'll probably have to be cut, meaning we'd not get compensated for their loss at all.

I'm not opposed to bringing Vick in, but I can see a lot of potential downsides as well.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



People get cut/traded. Get over it. Why do people always get butthurt when players get cut? We have no personal attachment to any of them. That includes Brett Favre. When a player gets cut, it's for the good of the team. That may not be the case for Mike Wahle, but that's another story.

Why would BOTH Flynn and Brohm be inactive on gameday? You usually carry in 3 QB's in a game. The reason why Brohm never got opportunities to suit up was simply because he showed nothing in camp to warrant an activation. Hell, in my opinion--neither did Flynn. Flynn was the de facto QB in that case.

If a QB had to be cut, it's going to be Flynn. Sure, he might be better than Brohm, but in all honesty--there are a whole bunch of veteran QB's in free agency who are better than both our backups. New England just did a great thing a couple days ago when they signed Andrew Walter. They have Tom Brady, but you at least want to have someone behind your guy who can play the game.

Vick doesn't fit our system. Big deal. He can learn it. You think Favre enjoyed having to re-learn McCarthy's "take-what-you-can-get" system? Sherman allowed him to throw the ball as deep as he wanted without holding himself accountable. McCarthy always holds his players accountable no matter who the guy is. Michael Vick has a chance to learn from McCarthy. And with how shaky our offensive line is, I wouldn't mind the dynamic Michael Vick running around all over the place. It adds the same excitement you'd have when you see Brett throw an 80-yard pass.

And when has Vick become unproven? This is the same Michael Vick that ended Green Bay's undefeated playoff streak at Lambeau Field with a stable of nameless wide receivers. The guy has won a hell of a lot more games than he lost.

I'm not saying he's better than Aaron Rodgers, but he's definitely more proven than any QB we have on the current roster.
Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings
16 years ago
for the sake of the team, it would be an excellent choice. isn't that what why we're all fans? because we want our team to win? i don't need to be best friends with every player and it's not like Favre was really a stand up guy either. remember...this organization doesn't take any bullshit from it's players. i think coming here might even be good for the soulless prick.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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Rockmolder
16 years ago
I hope that we sign him. He'll add a wrinkle to an offense that has been doing nearly nothing but run a west coast strategy. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it'll keep a defense on their heels. Asuming, of course, that he'll play a wildcat role here.

He'd be a great back-up as well behind our struggling O-line. Of course, Flynn can move around a little as well, but he can evade some pressure. Just look at how horrible that O-line of the Falcons seemed to be after Vick left. Apart from that, he had never played with any really good receivers, so his numbers might go up here. He'll never be an elite passer, but he sure could be decent. Especially in a west coast style offense.

As for the roster. We could hang on to 3 QBs, 3 HBs and a QB/HB hybrid. Maybe we could cut a corner or something. I'm still not that impressed by Bush, as good a gunner as he might be. I don't doubt that there's some space that we could create for him.

Also, this is one of the few FA signings that I could see Ted Thompson making. Ted seems to be very happy with the team he has on the field. At least, he doesn't appear to find it necessary to sign a FA to shore up the lines for instance. Vick wouldn't be an upgrade, but more of an added wrinkle. And one that won't come tht expensive after having been out of football for two years.
4PackGirl
16 years ago

So now that the Packers are openly relieved to have the whole Favre distraction behind them, they're seriously considering signing Michael Vick? I don't believe it.

"Greg C." wrote:



my thoughts...EXACTLY!!

and how is he in any way, shape or form "good for our team"?? are we seriously THAT desperate?
16 years ago


and how is he in any way, shape or form "good for our team"??

"4PackGirl" wrote:



uh...durrrr...because he's an incredible athlete, not to mention specifically...a QB of which we have no real back-up for Rodgers??

this isn't an ethical debate, folks.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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Zero2Cool
16 years ago


and how is he in any way, shape or form "good for our team"??

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:



uh...durrrr...because he's an incredible athlete, not to mention specifically...a QB of which we have no real back-up for Rodgers??

this isn't an ethical debate, folks.

"4PackGirl" wrote:


Michael Phelps is an incredible athlete too, should we sign him?
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go.pack.go.
16 years ago
He would DEFINITELY be a better backup than Brohm or Flynn. Maybe we could trade Brohm for a 3rd round draft pick? After all, we got him in the 2nd.

Yeah I heard on ESPN today that Ted Thompson said he isn't ruling this possibility out. I think it would be interesting to have him here, and definitely make our offense less predictable.

Wow it would be great to have an unpredictable offense AND defense haha.
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4PackGirl
16 years ago
uh...durrr...he's a pos who is quite possibly not even remotely in the correct mind-set to BE in the nfl. and as far as i'm concerned, ethics most certainly does enter into this discussion.
lemme guess - you'd have taken moss & t.o. in a heartbeat, right??

we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, gorilla. :D

edit: still lmao at the "uh..durr" - haven't heard that since i was 13!!
Pack93z
16 years ago


this isn't an ethical debate, folks.

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:



While it isn't an ethics debate, there most certainly is a tangent of this signing that is very much dependent upon Vick's attitude and mindset.

This is a publicly held franchise, dependent upon the fringe incomes... yes the revenue sharing keeps us competitive, but this income stream is very important to the Packers viability.

So it isn't just as simple as signing him to a contract and letting him compete.. there is a boat load of homework to do on this guy.

Ted might pass this off as a normal process, but I would find it hard to believe if they are considering this move, that they are turning over a couple extra rocks in this process. If they sign him, there is no turning back on the PR hit.. if he makes a mockery of franchise, only one group will shoulder the blame.

If they sign him.. it officially ends any question if Ted is willing to take a risk on a player.. he will have beat that nonsense into the ground with a steel 2x4... a number of times.
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