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dd80forever
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16 years ago

Hmmmmmm, interesting

The Titans game GB had the ball with 4:00 left and had to punt it at the 2:00 mark after A-Rod threw 3 incomplete passes, and a 2 yard dump-off on 3rd and 10 on the drive.

If A-Rod delivers their is NO overtime.

Regarding the Falcons game we were down by 3 in the 4th quarter and A-Rod through an INT which Atl returned to the redzone. If A-Rod doesn't throw this pick the game is alot closer at the end. A-Rod caused the Packers to not be in position to wrap it up in the 4th with a silly throw

You must also be confused on the Texans game. The Packers had the ball in a TIE football game with 4:00 left and they had to punt at the 2-Minute mark. The Texans drive and win at the end. If Rodgers converts the Texans never get the ball back and we run out the clock.

The missed FG by Crosby of 52 Yards is debatable I guess but A-Rod had the ball on the MINN 40 with 2:15 left. He failed to get a first down to make it an easier kick.

How you don't put a big part of the end-game play on Rodgers for these 4 is beyond me. Sure glad you are unbiased.

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Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

16 years ago

#32

If I were to say Brett Favre has the most consecutive game stating streak would you expect me to link to every game as proof?

It's fact, one I take it you were unaware of.

"dd80forever" wrote:

It's just this sort of condescending crap that has caused me to lose all respect for you. I know you're intelligent, but you're like a two-year-old screaming and thrashing because his parent is holding him fast when he wants to go play. It speaks volumes about your maturity.

Please show a little respect to the guy who provides this site free of charge for us all to enjoy.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

16 years ago

#33

I've said it before, I'll say it again. Come-from-behind victories is one of the most overrated statistics imaginable. It's not something to be proud of -- you don't WANT to have to come from behind. If you have to come from behind to win, it means you didn't take care of business earlier in the game. A lot of come-from-behind victories are caused by QBs fumbling or throwing interceptions and getting themselves in a hole.

I'd be happy with a QB who had zero career come-from-behind victories if he won us a Super Bowl.

The_Green_Ninja
Senior Member

16 years ago

#34

If I were to say Brett Favre has the most consecutive game stating streak would you expect me to link to every game as proof?

It's fact, one I take it you were unaware of.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

It's just this sort of condescending crap that has caused me to lose all respect for you. I know you're intelligent, but you're like a two-year-old screaming and thrashing because his parent is holding him fast when he wants to go play. It speaks volumes about your maturity.

Please show a little respect to the guy who provides this site free of charge for us all to enjoy.

"dd80forever" wrote:

When will he pull out the all great...

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

16 years ago

#35

+1 Green Ninja! That image would make a great avatar if it weren't in such a wide aspect ratio.

dd80forever
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16 years ago

#36

If I were to say Brett Favre has the most consecutive game stating streak would you expect me to link to every game as proof?

It's fact, one I take it you were unaware of.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

"dd80forever" wrote:

This wasn't meant as an insult at all.

I'm stating I thought this was common knowledge, I was unaware Zero did not know this fact.

And lose respect for me? I don't even know you man so if you think that bugs me you are wrong. I would have to respect you to even care and I never had anything more respect for you than the clerk at the gas station.

There are people here I respect because I've been chatting with them for some time, you are not one of them. All you've ever done is get pissed at me because I disagree with you. I will give you common courtesy but respect is a little strong.

You can hate my guts for all I care.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

16 years ago

#37

"dd80forever" wrote:

I'm confused here. Are you talking to me in this post?

Titans game - 1st and 10 @ 2:51
Rodgers, incomplete to Humphrey
Rodgers, incomplete to Nelson
Rodgers, 2 yarder to Jackson

The reason I can't put this on Rodgers alone, because we don't know if the balls were catchable, enough time in the pocket, etc... too many variables to pin it on one person, in my opinion.

The Packers had to punt at the 2:00 mark in the TITANS and TEXANS games. Both games the Packers got the ball with four minutes and change on the clock too.

Texans game can't be put on Rodgers so easily. If the defense recovers the fumble by Schaub at the 28, the Packers are lined up for a 54 yard FG (assuming they don't make any progress) for a game winning FG. The defense played a part in the loss more than Rodgers. The defense should have been able to hold the TEXANS to less than 21 points. They didn't, they take the blame of the loss in my opinion.

Week - Opponent / With 4:00 remaining, closest the score was / Outcome (Brief summary)

Week 1 - Vikings / 24 - 12 / Win
Week 2 - Lions / 34 - 25 / Win
Week 3 - Cowboys / 27 - 16 / Lost
Week 4 - Buccaneers / 21 - 23 / Lost (Rodgers throws INT, Buccaneers score TD to seal the game)
Week 5 - Falcons / 27 - 24 / Lost (Packers TD at 1:56 mark, Falcons ran the clock out.)
Week 6 - Seahawks / 27 - 17 / Win
Week 7 - Colts / 34 - 14 / Win
Week 9 - Titans / 16 - 16 / Lost (OT, Titans won coin flip, scored.)
Week 10 - Vikings / 28 - 27 / Lost (Crosby misses 52 yard FG with :31 left)
Week 11 - Bears / 37 - 3 / Win
Week 12 - Saints / 45 - 29 / Lost
Week 13 - Panthers / 31 - 28 / Lost (Packers score FG with 2:00 left to lead by 3. Panthers scored a TD to take 4 point with :90 on clock, Rodgers throws INT on second play of drive.)
Week 14 - Texans / 21 - 21 / Lost (Packers tied game at 6:00 with TD, Texans go 75 yds, FG to take lead, Packers did not get the ball after the FG.)
Week 15 - Jaguars / 16 - 20 / Lost (Packers with ball, 1:50 remaining, Rodgers throw's INT, game over.)
Week 16 - Bears / 17 - 17 / Lost (Crosby misses 38 yard FG with :25), game goes to OT, Bears won coin flip, scored.)
Week 17 - Lions / 31 - 21 / Win

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

There is EIGHT games we were within EIGHT points of taking the lead for the win. So, it is accurate to say that the Packers (or Rodgers for those who are bias against him) were 0 - 8 with 4:00 minutes to go and one score of taking the lead.

Here is how I lay the blame on five of the games that I feel we should have pulled out a WIN.

Buccaneers = Rodgers
Vikings = Crosby
Panthers = Rodgers (even though we took the lead by three with 2:00 to go, he had another chance)
Jaguars = Rodgers
Bears = Crosby

3 fall on Rodgers, 2 fall on Crosby and the other 3 fall on the 'team' effort.

In my opinion, Rodgers could have given us three more wins, but failed. Crosby could have added two more wins, and failed.

I am NOT going to do this for Favre because from dd80's comments I can see exactly where he'll turn it into and I am really, really, REALLY tired of that shtick.

dd80forever
Registered

16 years ago

#38

If I were to say Brett Favre has the most consecutive game stating streak would you expect me to link to every game as proof?

It's fact, one I take it you were unaware of.

"The_Green_Ninja" wrote:

It's just this sort of condescending crap that has caused me to lose all respect for you. I know you're intelligent, but you're like a two-year-old screaming and thrashing because his parent is holding him fast when he wants to go play. It speaks volumes about your maturity.

Please show a little respect to the guy who provides this site free of charge for us all to enjoy.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

When will he pull out the all great...

"dd80forever" wrote:

Grow up.

Ban Him!
Ban Him!
Ban Him!

Get outta here with that whiny stuff. State why you disagree.......or............. just get mad and cry about me being banned because that brings so much into the discussion

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

16 years ago

#39

This wasn't meant as an insult at all.

I'm stating I thought this was common knowledge, I was unaware Zero did not know this fact.

"dd80forever" wrote:

What is common knowledge and fact? That Brett started X amount of games? I never disputed that or asked for proof of it. And that'd be an easy one to prove via one single link. Your statement of the 0 - 8 thing is not so easily proven unless you find a source that is very trustworthy. And I don't trust the media, therefore I do my own research. I like to see the breakdowns on how the conclusion came about. I find that stuff interesting. So if that means I'm 'out of the loop' on 'common knowledge', so be it.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

16 years ago

#40

I will give you common courtesy but respect is a little strong.

"dd80forever" wrote:

That's where you and I differ then. I try my hardest to respect everyone until they prove intractable. I hardly agree on anything with most of my closest friends, but we all respect and admire each other because we know what we believe and we're able to argue for our beliefs.

I've never "gotten pissed" at you, as you put it, for disagreeing with me. I do think you sometimes rehash the same arguments ad nauseum, but I don't get "pissed" about that. In fact, I can point to a number of posts in which I give you props for raising good points. The only thing I've ever taken issue with you personally is your tone, which is consistently sarcastic, snide, condescending, and often downright insulting. I understand that you're in the minority on a lot of issues, but I don't see why you have to be so strident about expressing yourself.

But this is Zero's show and he seems to like you, so I'm hands off.

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