Gravedigga
15 years ago

Whats the point of this thread? That people really hate Brett more than they are saying? Allegedly? Really, who gives a damn what Sharper has to say? Freeman? Not me. Freeman can thank Favre for any contract he received after his rookie contract. Obviously he was garbage after he left the Packers. Too bad the Packers kept sticking favre with these mediocre scrubs all his career or Favre might have put his records far out of reach of Manning in addition to maybe getting more than one ring.

Also, who the hell ever said that Favre was supposed to be all things to all people. He's just one guy. He's a human. He's not mother Teresa, he's not Jesus Christ. He's a football player. He always played his hardest. He was always respectful to the fans and his peers. He never went to the media and publicized contract matters or internal player drama other than one time(Javon Walker) which I didn't agree with but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. He never held out, always gave the Packers friendly deals when it came to contract negotiations. Though he always had a good salary, he was so beloved in the mid 90's and early 2000's that he could have bent the Packers over and stuck it to them and the Pack would have paid it. I always respected that about him.

He's selfish. How about Sharper? Is he selfish? He left the Pack for $$$. Problem here is Favre is on such a high pedestal that when he acts normal, he is blasted because he is not the fun loving saint that people have made him out to be.
The guy has said nothing this offseason. All the media speculation is hyping this up. The guy is taking his time, thinking about whether he wants to do this, etc. He has the right to do so.

But seriously, the way some of you guys expect so much out of him is pretty childish. He owes you nothing. You guys are dissapointed because he's not the fun loving redneck, smiling on his tractor and telling jokes that you want him to be. Get over it and grow up.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



What's the point? This is a Packers website where members discuss the Packers and other related information. This is just that. Now that you have point clearly stated to you. Quite with the 'he owes you' lines because well if you can't figure out the point of a thread you have no place in generalizing any group of people. Grow up.


Brett is Brett, period. In a few years, non of this will matter. For now, it kills time during the piss poor off season so if you don't like it, don't open the damn threads and surely don't read them. There are other threads and other topics that would be better with your comments and opinions than your whining about things that you nor I can change.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



I have a feeling you only read the first line of what I said based on your response. I get the point of the thread(bash Brett some more) and my question was rhetorical. I wasn't necessarily speaking to you also. I know how you feel about it but I'm more so speaking to the people who like to jump on the guy at every opportunity.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Yeah, and for every person who jumps on him for anything, there's ten who think he can walk on water. Trust me my friend, there's no winning this one lol ... I have tried!
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Gravedigga
15 years ago
Ahh, it's 1:30, just felt like giving a little speech 🙂
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TheEngineer
15 years ago


The guy has said nothing this offseason. All the media speculation is hyping this up. The guy is taking his time, thinking about whether he wants to do this, etc. He has the right to do so.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



There was a lot of things I could have addressed in your post but I didn't particularly feel like another Favre debate. Anyway, I will address the quote I posted above and ask:

Does anybody else feel like Favre's antics and the media circus have a circular effect? I almost feel that Favre was helped into returning by all the media frenzy in 2008, all the people saying that he still has it and he should play if he wants. I think he feeds off others opinions as much as his own, and the validation he receives from the media justifies in part his desires to keep playing.
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Gravedigga
15 years ago


The guy has said nothing this offseason. All the media speculation is hyping this up. The guy is taking his time, thinking about whether he wants to do this, etc. He has the right to do so.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



There was a lot of things I could have addressed in your post but I didn't particularly feel like another Favre debate. Anyway, I will address the quote I posted above and ask:

Does anybody else feel like Favre's antics and the media circus have a circular effect? I almost feel that Favre was helped into returning by all the media frenzy in 2008, all the people saying that he still has it and he should play if he wants. I think he feeds off others opinions as much as his own, and the validation he receives from the media justifies in part his desires to keep playing.

"Gravedigga" wrote:




I would say yes 100% correct. Maybe 50/50 media/him. Everyone wants to feel needed in life. Whether you're a prof athelete, a guy on a bowling team or you play basketball a couple times per month. If you're past your prime but you think someone can use you or you can help someone you give it consideration.

I also think he intended on going to the Vikings all along and told the Jets about it. Maybe he had to retire first, then the Jets could release him without cap implications. Then the Minnesota rumors start flying a week or 2 later. If i'm wrong about the cap implications please correct me.
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TheOldMan
15 years ago


The guy has said nothing this offseason. All the media speculation is hyping this up. The guy is taking his time, thinking about whether he wants to do this, etc. He has the right to do so.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



There was a lot of things I could have addressed in your post but I didn't particularly feel like another Favre debate. Anyway, I will address the quote I posted above and ask:

Does anybody else feel like Favre's antics and the media circus have a circular effect? I almost feel that Favre was helped into returning by all the media frenzy in 2008, all the people saying that he still has it and he should play if he wants. I think he feeds off others opinions as much as his own, and the validation he receives from the media justifies in part his desires to keep playing.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



I think you should ask yourself if the media needs Favre just as much, or MORE than Favre needs the media.

You see, I dont' see it as Favre creating this "drama" and needing the media to feed his ego.

I see it as a guy at the end of his career who keeps wanting to play football in the NFL, and to keep winning.

The fans and the media are the ones turning it into a circus. Not Favre.
Truth be known, I'm TT's baby!
longtimefan
15 years ago



You see, I dont' see it as Favre creating this "drama" and needing the media to feed his ego.

I see it as a guy at the end of his career who keeps wanting to play football in the NFL, and to keep winning.

The fans and the media are the ones turning it into a circus. Not Favre.

"TheOldMan" wrote:



Then I would ask, he could end it all by making a statement

All the rumors are false, no need for them

Wait...... he did that last year and a little bit later flew into Green Bay on a Sunday night.

Or he could say in a text message NO to the question are you wanting to come back..


Wait.....he did that too but then days later said he thought Dilfer was asking if he hired a personal trainer


But yeah Brett is not making this to be a circus..

Seriously...He could end it all by have a p/c and announcing HIS intentions instead of texting Ed, Chris, Peter, Rachael, and Al
TheOldMan
15 years ago
"As of now, I am retired".

How is that doing all the crap that you're accusing him of.

So he's thinking of making a comeback, big deal.

All of the Ted Thompson supporters are attacking him because they're afraid. I see no other reason to do so.
Truth be known, I'm TT's baby!
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago

"As of now, I am retired".

How is that doing all the crap that you're accusing him of.

So he's thinking of making a comeback, big deal.

All of the Ted Thompson supporters are attacking him because they're afraid. I see no other reason to do so.

"TheOldMan" wrote:



Only thing I would like is for Brett to come out and say the truth. If he would come out and say, I am currently still retired, but I am checking out my health and weighing my options for a possible return, I would be much happier.

I don't care if Brett wants to play, even with the Vikings. If he thinks he is capable, fine. I am just tired of all the speculation floating around, and a few minutes of his time could put an end to most of it.
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dd80forever
15 years ago

"As of now, I am retired".

How is that doing all the crap that you're accusing him of.

So he's thinking of making a comeback, big deal.

All of the Ted Thompson supporters are attacking him because they're afraid. I see no other reason to do so.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Only thing I would like is for Brett to come out and say the truth. If he would come out and say, I am currently still retired, but I am checking out my health and weighing my options for a possible return, I would be much happier.

I don't care if Brett wants to play, even with the Vikings. If he thinks he is capable, fine. I am just tired of all the speculation floating around, and a few minutes of his time could put an end to most of it.

"TheOldMan" wrote:




And a simple statement from Ted Thompson could have cleared things up before the biggest fiasco in NFL history took place last year.

Brett said

AS OF NOW I AM RETIRED!

100% TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He doesn't have to tell ANYONE what his plans are. If the media speculates thats their deal.

And then the predictable, Ted Thompson backers will misinterpret what Brett says and find a way to crown him the devil for it.
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