Random Draft Thoughts· Page 2

beast
Select Member

8 months ago

#11

OL, OL, OL, NT, S and ILB

Our top 6 needed positions (assuming the Kicker improves)

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 months ago

#12

This guy usually is least wrong with his Mock Draft. He doesn't put many out there. In fact, this is 1.0.

https://www.nfl.com/news/peter-schrager-2024-nfl-mock-draft-1-0-giants-leap-up-for-j-j-mccarthy-vikings-stick-and-pick-cb-qb

Martha Careful
Member

8 months ago

#13

Zero2Cool posted

If Alt falls to 7, I would love to put a package together and trade up.

Go Packers!!!!

Martha Careful
Member

8 months ago

#14

Also,
Does anyone have a better version of the NFL trade value chart....if so please post.

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Go Packers!!!!

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

8 months ago

#15

Also,
Does anyone have a better version of the NFL trade value chart....if so please post.

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Originally Posted by: Martha Careful

2024 NFL Trade Value Chart

That one there is the one that popped earlier when I saw your post about Alt and wanted to look up a trade chart.

Trade Value Chart-Rich Hill Model 2024

A revised one that's based off of comments from Bill Belichick that the old model has seen revisions in the past decade

Zero2Cool postedIf Alt falls to 7, I would love to put a package together and trade up.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful

Based on the Mahomes trade in the 2017 that the Bills and Chiefs did (Bills 10th overall for the Chiefs #1 at 27, 3rd rounder at 91 and the Chiefs 2018 1st rounder), the starting point would be a 1st and a 3rd. With the chart you provided, Green Bay comes out slightly ahead...on paper. In reality GB would have to throw in more picks from this year or toss in their 2025 #1. A future first might not be enough either with how many teams are reportedly eying QBs and the number of top QB prospects expected to go in the first. Under both trade charts I provided, GB picks don't have enough value and would definitely have to throw in more picks.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 months ago

#16

Also,
Does anyone have a better version of the NFL trade value chart....if so please post.

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Originally Posted by: Martha Careful

If by better you mean more accurate. I don't know of one. If you mean by format, I think that one is lookin good!

beast
Select Member

8 months ago

#17

I haven't seen it recent years, but there was website that was doing updated one every year based on the prior years trades.

And I think teams have mentioned they have like 3 different trade chart models, I have wanted them to break down what the different models are for, but haven't seen anyone explain that yet.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

8 months ago

#18

Originally Posted by: beast

I would stink at that kind of a project. I'd be adding value to the first pick of Day 2 and Day 3 simply because I have more time to evaluate the boards and directions teams have gone. And by that I'm saying I'd probably value pick 33 higher than pick 32 for the simple fact that I have numerous hours to evaluate w hat teams have done, who is doing what, etc. So that 33rd pick becomes more valuable to me than 32nd.

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

8 months ago

#19

Gutes previously stated that they probably won't make 11 picks in the draft. But what interests me is what Gute hasn't said and that is "We're not using 9 or 10 picks this draft." With this years offseason spending spree on McKinney and Jacobs while GBs players that were signed for relatively small amounts (save for Runyan and Savage), it's possible that GB ends up with no comp picks which would be a rarity. With that in mind, I wouldn't be surprised if GB makes 9 or 10 picks this draft if they know they'll only have 7 picks going into the 2025 draft.

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