Rodgers: Simplifying might fix Pack's offense· Page 3

dhazer
Veteran Member

2 years ago

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Wow. Your hatred of Rodgers is obvious in every post you make.

When he retires, you will see just how much he will be missed.
Is he perfect? Of course not.
But he, as ANY QB needs, is time to find a guy open. And he mostly has new guys that are not used to the NFL speed, and are still trying to learn the playbook. Rodgers lost THREE of his main WRs this off season. All he has is Cobb (who now is hurt) and Lazard.
If they fix the O-line, things will greatly improve. But if they don't fix that, the season will go down the toilet.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Maybe he should have had his ass at the OTA's then to work with them or like other QB's have them get together in the off-season and throw to them. He has lost his accuracy which is plain to see. Did Adams cover a lot for him? Well hell ya as he would just throw it towards Adams and hope he catches it. I guess I am tired of his antics , lies about vaccination( just say you're not vaccinated easy as that.) How many times does he throw coaches under the bus? He got MM fired and he is playing god because the management kissed his ass to come back and cost us how much cap space now the next 3 years. He is always calling for better wideouts now how do you think that makes the current guys feel? He calls out the defense when they have been keeping us in the games when the offense doesn't do anything. I still say sit his ass down and let Love play we can't do any worse than we are now can we? Im sure Love would have no problem handing the ball off and running with our strengths and not call anyone out in the media. Rodgers just needs the media attention . Now we goto Washington where they always give us trouble and like everyone is saying our oline is a problem and we get to face that front four? I don't see many points being scored it will be a boring frustrating game. Redskins 17 Packers 10

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

2 years ago

#22

Holy hell. OTA's talk?? Seriously. Seriously seriously??? That's like saying you lost chess because you didn't practice checkers four months ago.

dhazer
Veteran Member

2 years ago

#23

Holy hell. OTA's talk?? Seriously. Seriously seriously??? That's like saying you lost chess because you didn't practice checkers four months ago.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Ya OTA talk granted he might not of needed it to learn other than getting in sync with the new guys, but he is to good for that. Then he doesn't play any preseason games so he doesn't get any live time with the new wideouts. Practice is one thing games are another. I just can't wait for the Diva to be gone, will we suck for awhile? Odds say yes, but then again people thought we would suck because we drafted a qb in the 1st round that dropped down to us and didn't look to good in the preseasons.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

2 years ago

#24

Originally Posted by: dhazer

There are a bunch of QB’s who don’t come to those OTA’s but the media (and you) only zone in on Rodgers. Hell, Tom Brady took a couple weeks off in training camp and nobody is talking about that even though he’s playing poorly this year.

You act like it’s his fault for not playing in preseason. If you would’ve actually watched any of his interviews, you’d know that he said he doesn’t mind playing, but he wants to play more than a series or two. MANY teams don’t play any starters in preseason, so don’t act like it’s because he’s a “diva”.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

2 years ago

#25

"Will we suck for awhile?"
Maybe you don't remember the 1970s and 1980s. That was a LONG while. I don't have 20 years left. So I will cherish the "Diva" who gives us the best chance to win.
But I guess you just can't reason with blind hate.
The problem with the team is a pourous O-line. That, and no real #1 WR. But put all the blame on AR if that's what floats your boat.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

2 years ago

#26

I would like to point out that Aaron might not even be referring to motion by receivers or backs when he says that the offense needs to simplify the offense. He might be referring to offensive line calls that not only the center makes, but so do fellow linemen. I read an article some time ago about how they call out both real and dummy calls, how one call can negate and/ or confirm a previous or subsequent call, and how it can all get quite complicated. After having read that, I had the inclination that he just might be referring to that aspect of the offense, at least in part. I also had the sense that on some of these long drawn out snap counts that infuriate all of us, there is some gamesmanship going on verbally in the trenches concurrent with what we can hear from Rodgers during those snap counts. It could be nothing to do with what he was referring to, but then again, it just might. No one else has brought this up, so I thought I would. As to Dhazer, frustration takes many forms, and I personally have no problems reading his perspectives. Never have,, but am surely going to let him know how full of crap he is, even when he isn't. 😆

nerdmann
Premier Member

2 years ago

#27

Avoid penalties and don't turn the ball over, and this game is a blowout.

However, I still think most of these penalties were bullshit.

No third down conversions today.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

nerdmann
Premier Member

2 years ago

#28

Avoid penalties and don't turn the ball over, and this game is a blowout.

However, I still think most of these penalties were bullshit.

No third down conversions today.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Maybe this is what he means by simplifying. Run the route exactly as called.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Pugger
Member

2 years ago

#29

Maybe he should have had his ass at the OTA's then to work with them or like other QB's have them get together in the off-season and throw to them. He has lost his accuracy which is plain to see. Did Adams cover a lot for him? Well hell ya as he would just throw it towards Adams and hope he catches it. I guess I am tired of his antics , lies about vaccination( just say you're not vaccinated easy as that.) How many times does he throw coaches under the bus? He got Mike McCarthy fired and he is playing god because the management kissed his ass to come back and cost us how much cap space now the next 3 years. He is always calling for better wideouts now how do you think that makes the current guys feel? He calls out the defense when they have been keeping us in the games when the offense doesn't do anything. I still say sit his ass down and let Love play we can't do any worse than we are now can we? Im sure Love would have no problem handing the ball off and running with our strengths and not call anyone out in the media. Rodgers just needs the media attention . Now we goto Washington where they always give us trouble and like everyone is saying our oline is a problem and we get to face that front four? I don't see many points being scored it will be a boring frustrating game. Redskins 17 Packers 10

Originally Posted by: dhazer

Perhaps had his coaches grown a pair and insisted he be there for offseason workouts this offense wouldn't be the train wreck we are witnessing every week.

I don't know why folks got into such a tizzy about what he said about his vax status. It really wasn't any of our business. Rodgers should have just said it was between him and his doctors and left it at that instead of "immunized". The league and the Packers knew of his status. If they were alright with it why should reporters or fans be upset? The vaccines don't really prevent the spread or protect you from getting it. Last month I participated a Sweet Adeline International convention in Phoenix. Everyone who wanted to attend had to show proof of vaccination or a negative test shortly before the event. More than twenty members and/or their guests in my chorus came home with the virus (I got lucky because I didn't even though a couple of those around me did). I don't know if I'd say Rodgers is a media hound. The media asks him and he answers. His problem is he answers all of these questions. 😉

dhazer
Veteran Member

2 years ago

#30

I figured I would throw this in here as I came across this when I was looking for some Love information and it's ironic how they talk about Rodgers 2 years ago. They were talking back then how Rodgers didn't like to follow gameplans and play calls as he would go outside the box.

More confident in an improved defense, LaFleur flipped what was a league-high 67.5 percent passing team to one that looked to throw 59.8 percent of the time in 2019. LaFleur brought his run-heavy mind-set from calling plays in Tennessee.

Rodgers' signature in Green Bay has been what he does out of the structure of the offense. But for offensive-minded coaches such as LaFleur and McCarthy, working outside the system, even with many good results, can be frustrating.

LaFleur should be more structured, not less, after the success the Packers had running the ball with Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams. Just as telling in LaFleur being less Rodgers-centric was the fact the team used a second-round pick on power back A.J. Dillon to complement Jones and Williams and didn't draft wide receiver help for Rodgers.
For two more years, LaFleur will adjust to Rodgers' mind-set and current skill set. But as it looks like LaFleur will last longer in Green Bay than Rodgers, it makes sense to move forward with a loyal Love than a "rogue" Rodgers.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

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