Zero2Cool
2 years ago

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GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Aaron Rodgers thinks there's a way to fix the Green Bay Packers' offense.

"Simplify some things," Rodgers said.

At this point, Rodgers said the Packers need to try something. And it's not just because of Sunday's 27-10 loss to the New York Jets during which they were repeatedly booed at Lambeau Field.

It has been six weeks' worth of offensive struggles. The Packers have scored 107 points (or 17.8 per game) so far this season. That's their fewest in any six-game span with Rodgers as their starting quarterback, according to ESPN Stats & Information research.

Sunday's loss, which left the Packers at 3-3, marked the first time in coach Matt LaFleur's four seasons that the Packers have lost consecutive regular-season games.

"I'm not attacking anything," Rodgers said. "I just think that based on how we've played the last two weeks, I think it's going to be in our best interests to simplify things for everybody -- for the line, for the backs, for the receivers, especially with [Randall Cobb's] injury. Just simplify some things, and maybe that'll help us get back on track."

Cobb, last week's leading receiver, left Sunday's game with an ankle injury and was emotional after he was carted off the field. Rodgers said that was because Cobb thought it was a season-ending broken ankle, but it turned to be less severe. Still, Cobb will likely miss the game next Sunday at Washington and perhaps more. The Packers also played Sunday without Sammy Watkins and Christian Watson -- both out with hamstring injuries.

The Jets hit Rodgers nine times, including four sacks. The Packers dropped six passes, their most in a game since 2017. Rodgers was off the mark on what had been routine throws. And other than a couple of throws to Allen Lazard (who had Green Bay's only touchdown on a 25-yard catch and added a 35-yarder), Rodgers couldn't get anything going down the field.

"I don't think there's many things we're leaning on very well right now," LaFleur said.

When asked to evaluate his own performance, Rodgers said he needs to raise his game "probably a little tick." He also called the offense inconsistent.

"That's why we need to simplify things because on the couple drives that we did move the ball, it was very simple things," Rodgers said. "Very simple plays, no motion, so we need to look at everything and the guys that we've got and what we can accomplish with them and let's be smart about moving forward.

"Nobody works harder than Matt on the plan each week, and nobody comes with better ideas than him and his staff. But if it's not working, it's not because those guys aren't grinding. It's because we're not executing. If you think we have the right players, then we need to simplify things. If you don't, then that's a whole other conversation."

When it comes to personnel, life after Davante Adams has not been easy. In six games, the Packers have had six different leading receivers. On Sunday, it was tight end Robert Tonyan with 10 catches for 90 yards.

Rodgers stopped short of making a plea for general manager Brian Gutekunst to make a move, but if he does, it will have to come soon. The NFL's trade deadline is Nov. 1.

"I trust him and his staff; if they feel like they need to add that they will," Rodgers said. "I think there's enough on this team to be a successful team. There's the possibility, if certain guys emerge, of us having a chance to make a run. I know Brian believes the same thing. But if there's an opportunity, I would expect that Brian will be in the mix."

After last Sunday's loss to the New York Giants in London, Rodgers expressed displeasure with the tone of some of the postgame comments in his own locker room. He brought that up again Sunday.

"It's going to be interesting to see how we all respond to this tomorrow and this week," Rodgers said. "I feel like we had a great week of practice, so this performance today was surprising. We've got to watch our language and the kind of energy that we're manifesting, but I'm going to be steady with the guys and I expect our leadership to do the same."

Meanwhile, it's up to LaFleur to figure out why the Packers can't put together a full game on offense.

"That's a fair question," LaFleur said. "I don't know. I mean, obviously if I knew we wouldn't be in this spot, right? We're in a pretty bad predicament right now.

"We're going to have to take a good hard look at everything and really do some great evaluations from a coaching perspective in terms of what's working, what's not working and try to find a different avenue because today was not good enough."

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This part stuck out during his conference.

"I'm not attacking anything. I just think that based on how we've played the last two weeks, I think it's going to be in our best interests to simplify things for everybody -- for the line, for the backs, for the receivers, especially with [Randall Cobb's] injury. Just simplify some things, and maybe that'll help us get back on track." -- Aaron Rodgers

So, I guess the QB and TE's are catching on just fine. It's everyone else.
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nerdmann
2 years ago
They need someone with speed to be able to clear out the safeties so guys can get open underneath.

Then they need a QB who can deliver the ball accurately more than 10 yards away.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
2 years ago
Rodgers is totally correct, as I've hammered, Newman and Jenkins have clearly been on different planets... it's shocked me how they have consistently failed to pick up simple stunts.

Also with Cobb injured, only Lazard and Tonyan have history catching many passes from Rodgers... some of these young guys are probably still learning the system.

Some MM like iso routes with the young WRs might be good... as Doubs has the route running and Watson has the speed. And maybe get Amari on some slants or catch and runs.


But yes, they also need to get the deep ball threat (don't nessarily need hit it all the time, but the threat of sometimes being successful at it), and running game going... to keep defenses honest.
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Cheesey
2 years ago
It was obvious to me that Rodgers thumb had something to do with his accuracy. Like when the ball just slipped out of his hand.
If he's unable to grip the ball, then you put Love in.
But to me the biggest problem is the O-line. They can't pass OR run block.
I don't care how good a RB you are (unless you are Barry Sanders) you aren't going to get any yards if there is no hole opened up for you to run through.
And if as a WR, you can't get any separation from the DBs, you won't catch many passes .
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nerdmann
2 years ago

It was obvious to me that Rodgers thumb had something to do with his accuracy. Like when the ball just slipped out of his hand.
If he's unable to grip the ball, then you put Love in.
But to me the biggest problem is the O-line. They can't pass OR run block.
I don't care how good a RB you are (unless you are Barry Sanders) you aren't going to get any yards if there is no hole opened up for you to run through.
And if as a WR, you can't get any separation from the DBs, you won't catch many passes .

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


Seems like Newman regressed with picking up these stunts. Struggled with last year, until December.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
2 years ago

Seems like Newman regressed with picking up these stunts. Struggled with last year, until December.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yeah, Myers hasn't yet gotten better since we've drafted him, he's extremely steady but hasn't shown improvement.

Newman has always been inconsistent, but like you said, putting Jenkins next to him, and they're totally been on different pages ... if you don't bench one of them, then I'm having the practice guys running stunts and blitz on them all day until they get on the same page.

Runyan for a 6th round pick, has been great in pass blocking, but seems like he can focus on pass or run blocking and be very good at one, both not both at the same time.


And what's slight killing me... is

After Myers, the next OL selected was Creed Humphrey (the extremely predraft hyped Center) whom has looked like an All Pro, Day 1 of joining the NFL.

After Newman, the next OL selected was Bears RT Larry Borom which their run blocking is about the same, but Borom pass blocking is soooo much better than Newman and he's at RT.

After Van Laden, the next OL selected was Chiefs OG Trey Smith and he's been better than Newman too.

Like, we had the right positions, at the right spots... but consistently made the wrong selection...

And then in the 3rd round this year we draft Rhyan? Whom with his lack of body length is probably an OG only and in college his technique looked great to get the maximum out of his lack of length at LT and now this training camp at RG he looked absolutely horrible technic.

Tom looked like he has potential but struggled in the real game he got in, but there is hope for him still.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago
Packers coach Matt LaFleur was asked if he was surprised to hear Aaron Rodgers says he wants to simplify the offense. "I don't know what that means," LaFleur said.

Oh boy. 🤦‍♂️

Left hand, meet right hand.


Update: Matt said that "tongue-in-cheek". Facetious.
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Cheesey
2 years ago

Packers coach Matt LaFleur was asked if he was surprised to hear Aaron Rodgers says he wants to simplify the offense. "I don't know what that means," LaFleur said.

Oh boy. 🤦‍♂️

Left hand, meet right hand.


Update: Matt said that "tongue-in-cheek". Facetious.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I wonder if that's true.
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Packers coach Matt LaFleur was asked if he was surprised to hear Aaron Rodgers says he wants to simplify the offense. "I don't know what that means," LaFleur said.

Oh boy. 🤦‍♂️

Left hand, meet right hand.


Update: Matt said that "tongue-in-cheek". Facetious.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


What it means is, run only Aaron's 50% of the play book.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
2 years ago
Point 1 - Mr Beast Posted re O line selections:

Like, we had the right positions, at the right spots... but consistently made the wrong selection...

And then in the 3rd round this year we draft Rhyan? Whom with his lack of body length is probably an OG only and in college his technique looked great to get the maximum out of his lack of length at LT and now this training camp at RG he looked absolutely horrible technic.

Tom looked like he has potential but struggled in the real game he got in, but there is hope for him still.

GREAT POINTS. Perhaps the chef and the guy buying the groceries are not on the same page.

Point 2 - Perhaps simplify means:
[list][*]call plays which get the ball to our expensive playmaker[*]block better[*]run schemes which inexperienced lineman can lineup and run without numerous iterations[*]run the same simple picks and rubs that most of the other teams (including high school teams) can run which seem to be highly effective in getting even the slowest receivers open[/list]
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