yooperfan
2 years ago

Why Barry needed MLF to wake him up, is beyond me.

It seems to me that he doesn't play to win, he plays not to lose.
Which is a recipe to lose. Like we did in London.
Of course only time will tell whether or not what Barry said was in fact "coach speak" meaning he's saying what he thinks the media wants to hear, or if he's really going to change and give the defense a real chance to win some games .

I think that's what Yooperfan was saying.
How many times have we heard coaches say "We will get it fixed", only to see nothing get fixed.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


Thanks Cheesey for cleaning up my verbal mess.

Zero2Cool
2 years ago

What I don't understand is why it took 5 games for Barry to get to the realization that "Duh, may be we shud tri sumthin diff-a-rent!"
I think most of the fans on this site had come to that realization weeks ago.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I kind of understand that. You don't make a change for the sake of change. The Packers defense has done quite well on certain areas. Then against Buccaneers they were aggressive and looked like things were on the right track. Why they went passive vs Giants is beyond me.

I think we've given five games for Rasul at slot. We've seen it's not working as I define it. Not working meaning it's not improving from week to week or showing signs of improvement. Rasul got his contract based off what he did on the outside, so why re-sign him just to put him inside? This whole putting the best 11 on the field is idiotic. You put the best UNIT of 11 on the field. If that means rotating Stokes and Rasul on the outside, so be it. It keeps them fresh. Or start Rasul and Jaire and Stokes spells either one from time to time. Keep them fresh.

UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
2 years ago
This is what has irked me for long time. Packers defense is giving receivers the 3rd most cushion before the snap in the NFL, and, along those lines, allowing the highest completion percentage.
UserPostedImage
beast
2 years ago

This is what has irked me for long time. Packers defense is giving receivers the 3rd most cushion before the snap in the NFL, and, along those lines, allowing the highest completion percentage.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Is that from PFF? Or whom the heck tracks that?

If that's on PFF, then I swear their must be areas I haven't seen on there, despite looking for new areas lol 😂

If that means rotating Stokes and Rasul on the outside, so be it. It keeps them fresh. Or start Rasul and Jaire and Stokes spells either one from time to time. Keep them fresh.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


That's fine, but unless you want an ILB attempting to cover a WR, then someone has to play slot CB...

Though honestly, attempting to think of solutions outside of the box, I kinda wondered about the idea of Savage at nickel and Alexander or Stokes as a deep FS, in the role of Earl Thomas. They got the speed for it... and I think (I don't know, but I think) Savage might be the best for for the slot (well, Alexander is the best coverage wise, but they're too worried about him getting banged up in the run gap to put him there).


UserPostedImage
bboystyle
2 years ago
When your own head coach and even the fans see flaws in your system and u are FINALLY going to fix it after 6 weeks, thats very troublesome and worrisome to have that type of coach on your team
dfosterf
2 years ago

This team is a debacle right now you have a defensive coordinator that can't make adjustments, you have a head coach that is afraid to yell at his QB because he won't run the ball, as Rodgers has stated they need to air it out more. Until Matt gets control of this team it will not go well. Simple fix on defense you have 3 studs at CB put Alexander in the slot and let Douglas and Stokes man the outside, which they did a great job at last year. More tight coverage and blitz the crap out of the offense. The linebackers are fast enough to cover the running backs, why sit back in a damn zone where we have proven over and over again that these guys can't get the concept of handing players off thru the zone. And on offense, you tell Rodgers to run the offense right or you bench his ass and put in someone that will. Rodgers is not the Packers, even though he thinks it is. Simple fix and with that, we might split the next 6 games.

We will still get toasted by the stampede in Buffalo.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 


What a homer. Lol You must be a real blast at parties.
nerdmann
2 years ago

When your own head coach and even the fans see flaws in your system and u are FINALLY going to fix it after 6 weeks, thats very troublesome and worrisome to have that type of coach on your team

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



D has allowed more than 20 points against one opponent all season, not counting turnovers and mistakes by the offense.

We lead the league in sacks and strip sack fumble recoveries negated by bullshit penalties.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
2 years ago

D has allowed more than 20 points against one opponent all season, not counting turnovers and mistakes by the offense.

We lead the league in sacks and strip sack fumble recoveries negated by bullshit penalties.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


I don't know whom does the official tracking of BS penalties, but there have certainly be some absolutely horrible calls on roughing the passer this year, and I don't think the Packers have a single one (yet). Just FYI, I'm not disagreeing with you, just saying, 1) I don't know how to unbiasedly track that 2) it could get even worse with some of the BS calls going around...





UserPostedImage
bboystyle
2 years ago

D has allowed more than 20 points against one opponent all season, not counting turnovers and mistakes by the offense.

We lead the league in sacks and strip sack fumble recoveries negated by bullshit penalties.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Like i said in another thread, we played against offenses missing their key starters and rookie/ 3rd string QB aside from the Vikings who put 27 on us. And like i said before, this D will be exposed for what it really is vs the Bills. Theres always context to these things and i dunno how u cant see that.
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Like i said in another thread, we played against offenses missing their key starters and rookie/ 3rd string QB aside from the Vikings who put 27 on us. And like i said before, this D will be exposed for what it really is vs the Bills. Theres always context to these things and i dunno how u cant see that.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



I think that whole 3rd string QB stuff is garbage. He's third not becaaie of talent. He's third cuz lack of opportunity. A lot of good and great QB were third at a time. Lots of players. The talk with Patriots is if that guy plays well again, they will consider supplanting Mac Jones who was first round pick. Or at least they'll delay Jones return until he's 100%.

If it was Brian Hoyer, that's different. He's a "proven" commodity to be a floating non starter. But that Zappe kid just needed an opportunity.

So, let's pump the complain train about what backups do and use our brains to understand they need opportunity.

Oh, I also wanna point out when someone new comes in and plays well. That's usually because the defense is rigid and cannot adapt to someone they didn't scout.

That said. Joe Barry sucks. 😊
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
packerfanoutwest (6h) : don't care
Zero2Cool (11h) : Lions shopping Jameson Williams?
packerfanoutwest (19h) : Packers General Manager Brian Gutekunst says Green Bay’s roster can win, even without adding anyone in the draft.
Zero2Cool (19h) : It's a poor design. New site has SignalR like our gameday chat
wpr (19h) : Ah today's Shout was very quick to post.
wpr (19h) : now 3
Zero2Cool (20h) : Who? What?
beast (22-Apr) : What is he supposed to say? He doesn't want players currently on the team?
Martha Careful (21-Apr) : meh
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Sounds like Walker and Wyatt will be with Packers for beyond 2026
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : It's so awesome.
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : new site fan shout post fast
wpr (21-Apr) : Slow posting in Fan shout.
wpr (21-Apr) : Only 4
wpr (21-Apr) : Only 4
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : If only we had a topic to read about and discuss it. That's something new website must have!!!
dfosterf (21-Apr) : Justice Musqueda over at Acme Packing put up an excellent synopsis of the Packers 1st round options this am
wpr (19-Apr) : 5 days
beast (18-Apr) : 6 days
wpr (17-Apr) : 7 days
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.
dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move
dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
11h / Packers Draft Threads / Zero2Cool

13h / Random Babble / Martha Careful

14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

19h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

22-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

17-Apr / Random Babble / wpr

16-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

13-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

12-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

11-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Rockmolder

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.