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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

2 years ago

Who should be the five OL for Packers now that we got Little David back?

Although, this might not be the "best five" individuals, I think it's the best group. And I believe the sum of the parts is more important than the individual parts.

LT - David Bakhtiari
LG - Elgton Jenkins
C - Josh Myers
RG - Jon Runyan Jr
RT - Yosh Nijman

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dfosterf
Veteran Member

2 years ago

Adam Stenavich made the comment to the media in training camp that Yosh Nijman has not transitioned smoothly to right tackle when they have tried it. The question has been asked a couple of times by fans in the Packers inbox- I saw it about a week ago. and again this morning. The collective view seems to indicate that Yosh is a left tackle. not a right tackle. pretty much period, end of story. I personally have a perspective that he can play right tackle, I think he did his senior year in college, but I am not the offensive coordinator. I should be, but that's an opinion 🤷

beast
Select Member

2 years ago

Adam Stenavich made the comment to the media in training camp that Yosh Nijman has not transitioned smoothly to right tackle when they have tried it.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf

Thanks for that information, I've missed that.

Although, this might not be the "best five" individuals, I think it's the best group. And I believe the sum of the parts is more important than the individual parts.

LT - David Bakhtiari
LG - Elgton Jenkins
C - Josh Myers
RG - Jon Runyan Jr
RT - Yosh Nijman

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I think those are the best 5... though not sure whom the best collective group is, especially if like posted above, Nijman is limited to mainly LT.

Hopefully Nijman can play either LG or RT... if not, he might have to be a backup as I don't think they're going to be benching Bakhtiari.

If Bakhtiari and/or Nijman aren't at RT, then I think you put Jenkins there.

So the following would be my preferred lineups to try...

1) Bakhtiari, Runyan, Myers, Jenkins, Nijman
(yes you can make the argument for switching Runyan and Jenkins, but I'm trying to move the least amount and Runyan has always been on the left side and Jenkins has been working on the right side...)

2) Bakhtiari, Nijman, Myers, Runyan, Jenkins (everyone but Runyan stays on their same sides)

3) Bakhtiari, Runyan, Myers, Newman, Jenkins

wpr
Preferred Member

2 years ago

Thanks for that information, I've missed that.

I think those are the best 5... though not sure whom the best collective group is, especially if like posted above, Nijman is limited to mainly LT.

Hopefully Nijman can play either LG or RT... if not, he might have to be a backup as I don't think they're going to be benching Bakhtiari.

If Bakhtiari and/or Nijman aren't at RT, then I think you put Jenkins there.

So the following would be my preferred lineups to try...

1) Bakhtiari, Runyan, Myers, Jenkins, Nijman
(yes you can make the argument for switching Runyan and Jenkins, but I'm trying to move the least amount and Runyan has always been on the left side and Jenkins has been working on the right side...)

2) Bakhtiari, Nijman, Myers, Runyan, Jenkins (everyone but Runyan stays on their same sides)

3) Bakhtiari, Runyan, Myers, Newman, Jenkins

Originally Posted by: beast

This is the one they will use until Toms pushes Newman out.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

2 years ago

Bakhtiari, Runyan, Myers, Jenkins, and Nijman, obviously left to right.

I cannot be convinced that Jenkins is a better right tackle than Nijman, and we all know he is a fantastic right guard. He needs to be playing right guard, imo.

So, find our right tackle, the rest is obvious. at least to me. If Nijman is taking reps on the 2nd team at left tackle, keep him on the 2nd team but taking reps at right tackle. The man played the position his senior year. so there is some real evidence that he is an ambidextrous ass-wiper in a left right tackle sense.
Since there is much evidence at least in my mind that this team is either slow or stubborn- I might submit both- I strongly suspect we aren't even going to try what again seems obvious to so many fans. Oh. and while they were test driving him at rt, was it Hanson next to him? I say that has to be factored in regarding his efficacy as a rt.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

2 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I tried telling you people. You wouldn't listen to me. Elgton Jenkins is not a RT. Why not put him back at LG and then we have a dominate left side? Why not? WHY NOT DO THE OBVIOUSLY BEST THING FOR THE PACKERS?!?!?!??!

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dfosterf
Veteran Member

2 years ago

You got the guards reversed, so if you just go ahead and switch those, I'll listen. 😆 I'll call Mark up and get this whole thing straightened out, and promise to use Zero2Cool as a reference. We need to take this to the top, dammit. 😆

nerdmann
Premier Member

2 years ago

Let's give Nijman a series or two, take a look at him.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

2 years ago

I cannot be convinced that Jenkins is a better right tackle than Nijman, and we all know he is a fantastic right guard. He needs to be playing right guard, imo. .

Originally Posted by: dfosterf

How do we know Jenkins is fantastic at RG? He's played LG, C and LT and this year played RT. I don't recall him playing RG.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

2 years ago

#10

I should have said guard, but admittedly am simply bolstering my argument in that Jenkins is our most versatile lineman, I love Runyan right where he is, I think Jenkins helps a right tackle more than Runyan would. It is one less switcheroo, playing guard is more of a phone booth than a driveway, so interchangeability left to right for him seems the most logical of the options. Dude is a pro bowl guard. We need help on the right, we run to the right, Jenkins belongs on the right. Right?

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