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2 years ago
It's still extremely early in the season, with only two games so far... but at least according to PFF the Packers have really struggled in some areas.

The Packers highest score in these categories are...
~ Run defense 48.5
~ Tackling 37.1
~ ST 54.5

Tackling was an area Joe Barry focused on last off-season, and it shockingly improved, but so far this season, it seemed to have dropped back.

But pass rush and coverage improved a lot against the Bears, but the Bears also seem to have one of the worse OL in football so far...
~ Pass Rush 82.9
~ Coverage 89.6


On offense, RBs scored high in all games... despite our run blocking to be the weakness of the offense.

The rest of the offense scored between 55 and 62 against the Vikings and then between 76 and 85 against the Bears.


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Cheesey
2 years ago
So far, special teams have been a pleasant surprise. The last several years, every time they were on the field I had to hold my breath and close my eyes.
You can see the first two games that the Vikings and Bears tried to return punts and kickoffs that they thought could turn into big plays for them. Yet so far, our guys have held up.
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go.pack.go.
2 years ago
If 54 means “slightly above average” for special teams, then I’m happy. That’s all we need out of them.
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beast
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2 years ago

If 54 means “slightly above average” for special teams, then I’m happy. That’s all we need out of them.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



For PFF grades, I think 70 or 75 is average... probably 70.

So 54 is a poor score, I assume due to missed tackles. But I'll try to look into it more.
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2 years ago
According to PFF (which isn't perfect and I disagree with some how they do their grading)... but...

Packers have the 31st score in STs... with the Dolphins being 32nd.

Cardinals (68.9) and Ravens (67.9) are 16th and 17th... so I think 70 is supposed to be average grade, but average for this year right now would be 68.4.

Packers are close to beit dead last in grade still... Bears are #5, Vikings #9 and Lions are #21.

Trying to break down their grades more...

~ Kickoff return, Amari has 56.8
~ FGs grade, Crosby 66.5
~ Punting grade, O'Donnell 61.9
~ Kickoff, Crosby, 61.4


Then basically everyone whom has played on STs, I'm not listing them all...

But listing the top 5 in terms on snap count all with at least 28 ST snaps...

TE Davis 50.9
ILB McDuffie 73.7
OLB Galeai 53.4
S Leavitt 45.1
CB Nixon 48.1

To show some better ST grades, I'll also lis those with at least 18 ST snaps but less than 28...

CB Stokes 67.3
TE Dugara 73.6
WR Rodgers 60.5
CB Douglas 71.2

But the grades then go way down from there... I'll just mention the three worse ones...

ILB Barnes 29.6
CB Jeans-Charles 41.8
ILB Campbell 44.3
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dfosterf
2 years ago

So far, special teams have been a pleasant surprise. The last several years, every time they were on the field I had to hold my breath and close my eyes.
You can see the first two games that the Vikings and Bears tried to return punts and kickoffs that they thought could turn into big plays for them. Yet so far, our guys have held up.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Well, I for one still find them dicey, so forgive me for continuing to close my eyes and hold my breath, and for health reasons suggest you do the same, 😆
nerdmann
2 years ago

Well, I for one still find them dicey, so forgive me for continuing to close my eyes and hold my breath, and for health reasons suggest you do the same, 😆

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



I didn't care for the muffed punt this past week. But so far so good.
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beast
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2 years ago
Yeah, I got to question these ST grades too... the Packers highest score this year of 54.5... would be 6th worst compared to last year.

I'm certainly not saying STs have been good... but so far, I haven't been concerned about them as much as last year...

Of course, maybe they've gotten lucky sometimes they haven't given up something much worse, and I just haven't seen it.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago
Tackling is bothersome. It was the one thing they did well all season long in 2021.
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