beast
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3 years ago
QB Deshawn Watson has a massage scandal where about 21 unnamed massage therapist are claiming he inappropriately did things, generally dealing with his penis.

18 named massage therapist are now backing him, as he didn't do anything inappropriate things with them.

I get that he's a professional athletes, whom gets hit a lot as he doesn't have a good OL, but is it just me or even 10 massage therapist seem like a lot? Much less possibility 40... now this is over what 4 or 5 years... but these also are only ones that have claimed to speak up... how many more are there, that aren't yet part of that 40?

But still, I would think a player would find one to five good ones, and stick with them. I'm just surprised how many there are total.

Though, I don't know what is normal or standard for a professional athlete, but I just thought they'd prefer a smaller circle of very good ones... not often trying new ones. But maybe that's me being biased as I'm an introvert, and prefer a small circle of those that are good/trusted and not many people.


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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

QB Deshawn Watson has a massage scandal where about 21 unnamed massage therapist are claiming he inappropriately did things, generally dealing with his penis.

18 named massage therapist are now backing him, as he didn't do anything inappropriate things with them.

I get that he's a professional athletes, whom gets hit a lot as he doesn't have a good OL, but is it just me or even 10 massage therapist seem like a lot? Much less possibility 40... now this is over what 4 or 5 years... but these also are only ones that have claimed to speak up... how many more are there, that aren't yet part of that 40?

But still, I would think a player would find one to five good ones, and stick with them. I'm just surprised how many there are total.

Though, I don't know what is normal or standard for a professional athlete, but I just thought they'd prefer a smaller circle of very good ones... not often trying new ones. But maybe that's me being biased as I'm an introvert, and prefer a small circle of those that are good/trusted and not many people.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I would want to find one who does a really good job and knows my body. I don't mean that in a perverted way. Why he's going around to so many is kind of different to me. When he first posted something on social media about the allegations, I started thinking Ryan Bryan and Rafael Palmeiro denials to steroids.

I don't know if any of it is true or not. I don't know if it's better for him be innocent and nearly two dozen women lying, or him being guilty. I do know I wish our Country was one that allegations were strictly private and only convictions were possibly made public.

Edit, we now know Andrew Brandt reads this website.

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3 years ago

I get that he's a professional athletes, whom gets hit a lot as he doesn't have a good OL, but is it just me or even 10 massage therapist seem like a lot? Much less possibility 40... now this is over what 4 or 5 years... but these also are only ones that have claimed to speak up... how many more are there, that aren't yet part of that 40?

But still, I would think a player would find one to five good ones, and stick with them. I'm just surprised how many there are total.

Originally Posted by: beast 

Great point.

I have had the some guy for 5 years (lower back). And when I live in Chicago, I had the same guy for 7 years. Once you find a good one, you stick with them.

So 40+ over 5 years...give me a break.It seem like the guy is a jerk-off. The whole story rubs me the wrong way. (Sorry Cheesey)


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beast
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3 years ago

So 40+ over 5 years...give me a break.It seem like the guy is a jerk-off. The whole story rubs me the wrong way. (Sorry Cheesey)

Originally Posted by: KRK 

Great puns!

Edit, we now know Andrew Brandt reads this website.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Glad I could help lead to a statement that proved this!

Though 3 for a whole team also seems light, maybe GB has less available?

But I'm glad everyone seems to agree, that even if you assume all the negative ones are fakes... just the 18 positive ones alone still seems like a high number.

Unless a large number of them simply didn't get the job done correctly or didn't have time for a multi-millionaire famous person. But that seems unlikely, not impossible, but unlikely.


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Cheesey
3 years ago

Great point.

I have had the some guy for 5 years (lower back). And when I live in Chicago, I had the same guy for 7 years. Once you find a good one, you stick with them.

So 40+ over 5 years...give me a break.It seem like the guy is a jerk-off. The whole story rubs me the wrong way. (Sorry Cheesey)

Originally Posted by: KRK 



No need to apologize! I LOVED it!šŸ˜‚šŸ¤ŖšŸ˜
Iā€™d say your joke was a ā€œstrokeā€ of genius! I really have to HAND it to you!šŸ¤Ŗ
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
When Deshaun Watson first defended himself on social media, I couldn't help but be reminded of Ryan Braun and Rafael Palmeiro going to bat for themselves. And reading some comments of those who are defending Watson saying "he's good looking, young and tons of money, he doesn't need to force himself onto a woman" and that breadth of comments makes me think about Darren Sharper and Kellen Winslow II.

Anyhow, it looks like one of the women who defended Watson broke off their business relationship and also said " I just hope donā€™t nobody call me to question me.ā€



https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/11/deshaun-watson-massage-therapist-tries-to-explain-text-messages-that-could-hurt-watsons-case/ 
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Cheesey
3 years ago
It seems Watson attempted more passes off the field then on the field!šŸ¤Ŗ
And he completed at least 22.
Of course we donā€™t know exactly how many he attempted, so we donā€™t know the completion percentage.šŸ˜‰
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3 years ago

It seems Watson attempted more passes off the field then on the field!šŸ¤Ŗ
And he completed at least 22.
Of course we donā€™t know exactly how many he attempted, so we donā€™t know the completion percentage.šŸ˜‰

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I've read some saying they hope he's innocent. I'm struggling to understand what to hope for here. That over 20 women are lying, or one man pressures women into sexual "acts". I guess the lying is probably better, but damn, over 20 girls straight up lying to get a buck? I guess I'm looking at it wrong -- probably. While I hate anyone to be forced to do anything against their will, I think one bad dude is less bad than almost two dozen women conspiring to destroy a persons character and potentially -- career.

I don't know. It just all feels bad.

I mean, --- during a pandemic and you're still hitting around every Instagram masseuse you can find? And then what do you do? Hey baby, how bout you lower that mask and get freaky? I mean, what?

The older I get, the less I understand about people.
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Cheesey
3 years ago
The older I get, the more I understand people.
When I was younger, I thought that most people thought like me, and didnā€™t even think of taking advantage of others.
Now I know that unfortunately, I was wrong. There are more bad people then I thought.
And the ā€œmodern ageā€, with computers and all make it that much easier to carry out evil things. The scams that go on all the time on the internet and cell phones is unreal. I just heard where an elderly lady mailed 20 grand to a scammer. She ended up being one of the few lucky ones, as the cops busted the creep and found the envelope with her address and money still in it, so she got it back.
Guys in high positions have used their ā€œinfluenceā€ to scam women into sexual acts for hundreds of years. But most of it wasnā€™t heard about much because there was no internet to share it all around the world.
The Kennedys did it big time. Look at Bill Clinton. And I thought Bill Cosby was a great guy. To say I was shocked when I heard about what he did is an understatement. And so people donā€™t think Iā€™m picking on one side, Trump seems to have used his position for the same reasons.
Darren Sharper, I never thought he was that kind of person.
And I heard about all kinds of sexual shananagans going on at the Milwaukee Brett Favre steak house from a guy that worked there. Of course I donā€™t know if it was true, but I wouldnā€™t doubt it.
These kinds of people get treated like their s**t doesnā€™t stink, and they routinely get away with things that the every day person doesnā€™t get away with. They are used to being surrounded by loving fans and ā€œyes menā€ that cater to their every whim. So they think they can do whatever they want with no consequences.
Like was said, why didnā€™t Watson get male masseuses to take care of him if what he really wanted was a deep tissue massage? My guess is, he wanted more. And the number of women alone makes him look guilty. Were they all so bad at what they did that he had to keep looking for the GOOD one?
I donā€™t understand why a guy, with so much to lose, would put himself in such a bad position.
Looks to me like another ā€œthinking with the little head, instead of the big oneā€ situation.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago
Desean Watson attorney on the radio today said if a massage ends with a "happy ending", that is not against the law, unless extra money was paid.


Wait a second! Why would I pay $150 for a massage with no happy ending, when I can pay $140 for a massage AND get a happy ending? You see the perk even though you're paying less?

I'm gonna have to disagree with mr attorney.


The attorney went on to explain that the act itself is only criminal if the sex act was solicited and paid for. ā€œUnless you are paying somebody extra or so to give you some time of sexual activity, itā€™s not a crime,ā€ Hardin said.

He then added that since this is not a criminal offense, itā€™s just another reason why Watson will be vindicated.

ā€œDoing something or saying something or being a way that makes you uncomfortable is not a crime,ā€ added Hardin. ā€œWeā€™ve had two grand juries find that and nobody seems to want to listen.ā€


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