Pack Should Draft a Project Quarterback· Page 3

Pugger
Member

3 years ago

#21

This isn't the year to be drafting a QB until the last few rounds.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

#22

I am just sick of "fans" with no clue implying that Jordan Love sucks and will never amount to anything. I will go with Gute's positive feelings about J-Love over yours. Thanks.

I am old enough to remember very well what some "fans" were saying about Aaron in 2005, 2006, 2007. It was some of the exact same things said about Jordan.

And the come back is..."well, Jordan Love isn't Aaron Rodgers." Of course he isn't. And Aaron wasn't Brett Favre.

What is your point? My point is that you know absolutely nothing.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

Maybe ease back there a bit guy and respond to what people have actually written - not what you imagine they think.

Originally Posted by: earthquake

Earthquake is correct Packer Nation.

Going back to 2005 I was absolutely and unequivocally thrilled with the selection of the #1 or #2 overall prospect in the draft at 24. I said then and I have said many times since then that Madden or someone of his ilk said it takes 3 years to properly develop a QB. Taking Aaron in 2005 means he would be ready to take over the leadership for the 2009 season. That was perfect timing.

Now as far as Love is concerned. I was a little concerned but I still liked the pick. Again it takes 3 years for a QB to develop. Selecting him in the 2020 draft meant he would be ready for 2023. Then COVID hit and Aaron stepped up and did an MVP repeat. No one knew. No one expected these things to happen. I will never say Gute made the wrong choice. I think Love has potential. I see his selection not as the guy who was going to replace Aaron in 2020 or even 2021. I see him as being a decent QB who will elevate the QB2 level to a place that gives the Packers a chance to win should Aaron be injured. The QB2 that GB had for the past 5 years or so didn't give them that chance.

I have also said, time and time again that Love's performance in the KC game was not an indication of his talent or abilities. First and foremost, he was, a rookie. It was a poor game plan for him. It was a poor game plan for the OL. The OL failed to meet any kind of a standard of protection and thus he was rushed and pressured beyond a level we can expect good results from any QB. After they changed the plan late in the game, he started to move the offense. I suspect he would have done so if they had called those same plays the whole game.

I am still willing to wait and see if he will be the Packers QB of the future. Rodgers new contract makes it a little complicated. It will be interesting to see if he wants to remain in GB after his 4 years are up. It will be interesting to see if GB wants to keep him as their backup QB at a higher salary.

So if you still want to chat, great. Just be careful of your assumptions. It might be you who was wrong.

PackersNation
Registered

3 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: wpr

Never quoted you or replied to you before now. My comments were not directed at you personally. I quoted "nerdman" once and replied to him personally. I am sure he is more than capable of speaking for himself.
The Jordan Love stuff I wrote was directed at a overall vibe here. You can all now claim to have J-Love's back. That is not the overall vibe of the forum, and not just this thread.

That is what I called out. And will continue to call out if I see it. Thanks.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

3 years ago

#24

All any if us have right now about Love are opinions. There isn't much real info available except his small amount of game play we have seen.
Will he be a bust? Or a future HOFer? Or something in between? No one here (or even in the Packers FO) knows for sure .
Did I think Aaron Rodgers would win a Superbowl, and be a future HOFer when he was drafted? Nope. Not because I thought he would suck, but because both of those things are rare. Think about how many teams not only haven't won a Superbowl, but haven't even been to one.
And how many teams have gone through multiple QBs, just hoping to have a great QB over the last 30 years, while we have had TWO Superbowl winning HOF QBs during that time.
Old farts like me lived through the great 1960's and had to survive the lousy 1970s and 1980s. So it makes the last 30 years something special to me.
I remember how great it felt to just make the playoffs for the first time when Favre got here. I was THRILLED to just get to see "my" team get to play one more game, win or lose.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

3 years ago

#25

All any if us have right now about Love are opinions. There isn't much real info available except his small amount of game play we have seen.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

Alan buddy, I have to stop you RIGHT HERE!! I know for a fact he's a stud! I know this because when I played the 2021 Packers in Madden, Jordan Love lead my team to the Super Bowl and won NFL MVP!!

MADDEN HAS SPOKEN!!

Cheesey
Preferred Member

3 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

😁😜
When I first started reading this, I thought "Kevin is ripping my post!" Then I read on, and started smiling ear to ear!

beast
Select Member

3 years ago

#27

The Jordan Love stuff I wrote was directed at a overall vibe here. You can all now claim to have J-Love's back. That is not the overall vibe of the forum, and not just this thread.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

That's probably because we have a certain outspoken poster whom hate Rodgers and has been promising is that Jordan Love is clearly CLEARLY a much better QB than Aaron Rodgers is...

We generally have Love's back, but even more we have reality's back in that Jordan Love in not yet I'm the same ball park as Rodgers, and almost no players as young as Love are... we don't expect that, but when someone keeps saying he's better than Rodgers, the comparison is changed.

Love absolutely failed to pass the zero coverage blitz, it's someone that a lot of young QBs fail at.

In no way does that determine his future... Love still has high potential and before Love was drafted, I've said he was a 3 year development QB and post draft, I don't know weather to count the no training camp, 3rd string rookie year or not.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

3 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

You are correct. You did not quote me. That's my mistake. Your comment followed mine and it felt as if you were putting me into the same group as those who dislike the Love selection. I overreacted. I apologize for misunderstanding you.
You are so passionate in your posts it is a little easy to make that mistake. Over the years I have seen it with other members with one another. Following the lead of other poster, at times I will put the caveat that "this is not directed to anyone in particular". I am not telling you what to do or to say only I have seen that diffuse tensions on the board.

Again, I welcome you as a new member. I find you and I are in agreement on many of your comments. If I make a mistake in the future, please let me know.

bboystyle
Member

3 years ago

#29

I called no one out by name for "being a Love hater." Don't make up things. Thanks.

I also didn't say anyone here is a "Love Hater." But I AM CALLING OUT the overall vibe here that Jordan Love is not a good QB and will never amount to anything.

Again, I heard the exact same thing said about Aaron in 2005, 2006, 2007.

Yes, anyone thinking they know what Jordan Love is or will be at this point, those people do indeed know NOTHING!

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

Love sucks. Deal with it

bboystyle
Member

3 years ago

#30

What? Are you attempting to cut on J-Love and say he has no skill? He has a stronger arm and more athleticism than Aaron. He is developing, just like Aaron did for 3 years. Of course Aaron is a better QB now, but J-Love has the potential to be a elite QB in this league. There were many clowns like you that said Aaron would never amount to anything, like you are implying about J-Love. I heard that numerous times in 2005, 2006, 2007 about Aaron. The Packers are keeping J-Love and they should. Gute will not be drafting a QB this year. They are set with Aaron, J-Love, and Benkert.

And no, they didn't keep Kurt around all last season just because of Covid. He is a high quality QB as well. Great dude also. Strong chance he is on the squad through 2022 as well.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

Stronger arm then Aaron? Lmao. Rodgers can throw a bullet with a flick of his wrist. Are u Love's agent or something?

Edit: i now notice u are saying all our QB back ups are high quality NFL players. U ok? U off the meds?

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