wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member Topic Starter
2 years ago



It was a Saturday afternoon in early September of last year. I was working on a project in my den and decided to put on a little college football in the background. Notre Dame happened to be playing Florida State. I wasn’t paying particularly close attention to the game, but this quarterback for the Fighting Irish kept catching my eye. I knew that their star signal caller of recent years, Ian Book, had moved on to the NFL, and I had wondered what they would do without him.  
Well, this new guy was putting on quite a show. Scrambling away from pressure, throwing on the run with pinpoint accuracy down the field, making great decisions. I thought the announcers were calling him “Cohen”. Every time I glanced up from my work, he was making a play. Eventually, I happened to be looking when they put his picture and name up on a graphic. I was stunned to see it was actually former Wisconsin Badger quarterback Jack Coan. I had forgotten he had transferred to South Bend. 
Coan threw for 366 yards and four touchdowns that day, leading the Irish to a thrilling 31-28 victory in overtime. He made it look as though Wisconsin made a very bad decision when they decided to stick with young Graham Mertz over Coan, after the latter missed a full season with an injury. Seeing the handwriting on the wall, Coan shipped out. 
I bring this up because the NFL draft is just weeks away, and I believe the Green Bay Packers need to spend a day three draft pick on a project quarterback. A player that has the potential, if not the resume’, to be groomed to be a competent back-up. I believe the Packers are going to need a solid back-up signal caller within the next two or three years. The way Aaron Rodgers’ contract is set up, the team either has to part with him after one more year, or ride him out for the long term. 
If he departs after the coming season, Jordan Love moves up to start. Who, then, is your back-up? Kurt Benkert? A fun guy to watch, really loves to get out there and crank the ball all over the field. But is he talented enough to actually win a real game if called upon in an emergency? Benkert went undrafted in 2018, spent two years on the Atlanta Falcons practice squad, and one season on injured reserve. He got cut in February of 2021, and then was signed by Green Bay as little more than a training camp arm. He’s the kind of underdog story you love to pull for, but all indications are he’s just not good enough. He played most of the Packers’ second preseason game last August, throwing for 151 yards and one touchdown, with one interception. The Packers can, and should, do better. 
If Rodgers stays for the long term, Jordan Love only remains a cheap back-up for two more seasons. Picking up his fifth year option is projected to cost as much as $18 million, according to si.com. Certainly way too much for a back-up. So the team would likely trade him prior to the 2024 season to get some value. There again, who would be the back-up? This is why the Packers should spend a late round selection on a young prospect whom they can start grooming immediately. 
Which brings me back to Jack Coan. He finished that senior season at Notre Dame spinning it for 3,150 yards and 25 touchdowns. Pro scouts like his leadership, coachability, and ball security, calling him a classic drop back quarterback. Like most young signal callers, he needs work on consistent accuracy, and reading defenses.  In other words, he’s a project. He’s been on watch lists for national awards, leading the Irish to an 11-2 record in 2021. He’s played in cold weather. He’s from New York. 
Various draft gurus have him going anywhere from round six to undrafted. Chances are he’s going to be there late in day three. No doubt, the Packers have many more urgent needs to address early on in the coming draft. But after securing the necessary prospects at receiver, linebacker, offensive line and tight end, when they get to the point where you’re just looking for potential, they should give Coan a serious look.  
As a former Badger, he’d be a popular player amongst the cheesehead faithful, and one day, he may develop into another in a long line of successful former Packer back-ups that includes Mark Brunell, Matt Hasselbeck, Aaron Brooks and Matt Flynn. It’s a flyer worth taking. 


Continue Reading @ CheeseheadTV 

CheeseheadTV wrote:



I guess my first question is where will they stash him. I don't want to use one of the 53 slots on QB3. If they draft him in the 5th round or so they won't be able to hold him on the PS. Another team will grab him. More than likely the Packers will need to wait until next year before they take another QB.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
2 years ago
If they use a Day 2 (speculation) pick on a QB, they almost have to move Jordan Love. Packers aren't going to roll with three QB's on the roster, again, my speculation. I'm hoping there's a big run on QB's in the top 15 and some QB desparate GM panics and throws a 2023 1st rounder to the Packers for Love, lol.
UserPostedImage
beast
2 years ago
Yeah most teams don't carry a #3 QB on the 53 man roster any more in fact, due to practice rules being changed by the CBAs... development of 3rd string QBs has started to become non-existent.

This is because the CBA limits practice time during the season, so the 3rd QB barely gets any reps during the season, and the CBA has limited the offseason practice work as well, which coaches can't coach players during parts of the offseason. Which has given rise to some 3rd party coaching services for QBs (honestly I'm surprised it hasn't gone more that way for all positions).

So basically my opinion is due to rule changes forced upon by the CBA, there is no room for a #3 QB other than the PS, and you don't want to invest too much into a PS player.

So don't draft a #3 QBs unless you're pretty sure one of your top 2 QBs will be gone in the next year.
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member Topic Starter
2 years ago

Yeah most teams don't carry a #3 QB on the 53 man roster any more

Originally Posted by: beast 



Except ............




da bares. 🤣
It beautiful man. Of course it didn't hurt their team or record.



UserPostedImage
dhazer
2 years ago
The QB class this year is weak next year they are saying is the year to get your qb of the future. I still say we hang on to Love as I don't think Rodgers will stay the full 3 years I am thinking this year and next and he is done.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
Cheesey
2 years ago

Except ............




da bares. 🤣
It beautiful man. Of course it didn't hurt their team or record.


Originally Posted by: wpr 



Da Bares could have a dozen QBs on their roster......and 12 of them would suck!😁🤪
UserPostedImage
TheKanataThrilla
2 years ago

The QB class this year is weak next year they are saying is the year to get your qb of the future. I still say we hang on to Love as I don't think Rodgers will stay the full 3 years I am thinking this year and next and he is done.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



I think it is 2 years minimum for Aaron, but the problem with that scenario is do you then have to pick up Jordan's 5th year option and its estimated $18M pricetag?

I am not down on Jordan like others, but the timing doesn't seem to work. I wouldn't mind a trade and a re-set with a Rookie QB who is in a better set to hold the clipboard and then become QB1 when Aaron calls it a career.
nerdmann
2 years ago

I think it is 2 years minimum for Aaron, but the problem with that scenario is do you then have to pick up Jordan's 5th year option and its estimated $18M pricetag?

I am not down on Jordan like others, but the timing doesn't seem to work. I wouldn't mind a trade and a re-set with a Rookie QB who is in a better set to hold the clipboard and then become QB1 when Aaron calls it a career.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 


Jordan's got the physical tools. Does Aaron have a "no trade" clause in his new deal?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
TheKanataThrilla
2 years ago

Jordan's got the physical tools. Does Aaron have a "no trade" clause in his new deal?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I don't think he does, but with all the dead cap money if he retires I think we created a no trade clause through another means.
PackersNation
2 years ago
Gute and the Packers are not at all interested in trading J-Love. And they shouldn't be. Let's say Aaron gets hurt. People would say Gute should have had a good backup in place. Well, he does, in J-Love. Tom Clements will work with J-Love and help him further develop. Nate Hackett and Luke Getsy had no clue how to develop a young QB. I am actually glad those 2 are gone. I was so sick of "Gold Zone." Hackett was in charge of the Red Zone and the Packers struggled down there last season. Getsy was a stiff.

For those of you saying the Packers won't carry 3 QBs. They had 3 all of last season. Aaron and J-Love active, and Kurt Benkert on the practice squad. That will be the same this season. Unless some team wants to trade a 3rd rounder for Kurt.
Fan Shout
Martha Careful (13h) : I hope it is colder than a well-diggers ass on Thanksgiving night.
Zero2Cool (21h) : doubt he wants to face the speedsters
beast (21h) : Dolphins offense can be explosive... I wonder if we'll have Alexander back
Zero2Cool (22h) : No Doubs could be issue Thursday
Mucky Tundra (25-Nov) : Bears. Santos. Blocked FG
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Bears. Vikings. OT
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Thems the breaks I guess
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Two players out and Williams had an injury designation this week but Oladapo is a healthy scratch
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Packers inactives vs 49ers: • CB Jaire Alexander • S Kitan Oladapo • LB Edgerrin Cooper • OL Jacob Monk
TheKanataThrilla (24-Nov) : Aaron Jones with a costly red zone fumble
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : When we trade Malik for a 1st rounder, we'll need a new QB2.
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : Report: Aaron Rodgers wants to play in 2025, but not for the Jets
beast (23-Nov) : That's what I told the Police officer about my speed when he pulled me over
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : NFL told Bears that Packers’ blocked field goal was legal
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
Zero2Cool (22-Nov) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked
Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?
beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.
bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league
packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.
beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."
Mucky Tundra (17-Nov) : my worst case scenario: Bears fix their oline and get a coach like Johnson from the Lions and his scheme
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

19h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.