I was pointing out the RB as one postion cuz that is who YOU kept bringing up..

Now your bringing more facts GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At least now your attempting to back up your claims, rather then just saying.........your right

Ummmm, that's like 3 times you were wrong in your statements in this thread alone.

Per your statement




No it was actually more than ONE position. You may need to start "cheking your facts"

And Zero, Robert Thomas was the year band-aid Ted Thompson brought in in 05. He started 9 games for us

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I think our '05 team had more superstars but our '08 team had overall better talent. That's my feeling right now thinking about it.


As for the argument that Ted inherited a 10 - 6 team, that's a blindsman view if I ever seen one. Ted inherited a team that won 10 games despite its GM and HC. It was also a team that was in decline because our GM didn't replenish the roster and was winning off Wolf's talent. Anyone and everyone sees that, give me a break.



I think 1 - 53 our team in '08 has the edge. However if you take the top 1 - 22 I think '05 has the edge. Does this make sense?

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Didnt know Green, Davenport, Fisher, Noah and Gado played a different postion?

They all played RB

RB= ONE POSITION

that is what I was referring to...

I understand and accept your thoughts on the WR and how we were down there as well..

But go ahead and act like I am not accepting that your right on a few different things

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Zero, I'm just stating that when Ted took over it was 10-6 the previous year. My intentions were never to actually say we were not declining. However we were certainly not declining to a 4-12 team that fast. Injuries, and Ted himself, had alot to do with it.

I realize Sherman inherited a team that was built by Wolf as well. I don't know why people think I liked Sherman that much because I didn't. However he did actually do a decent job keeping some of the guys Wolf brought in and also brought in a few guys himself, though I'd agree not enough. Sherman tried to win each year with his eye not on the future. With the declining talent and the window was closing, I think at the time it wasn't a bad plan, he just couldn't execute it.

Now we fast forward to Ted and you are spot on. 1-52 this team is better than 05 but 1-22 we had more back then. The more guys like Green, Favre, KGB, Hendo, exit the younger we get. Thses guys were rocks for the franchise, I don't think Ted can replace them with guys of equal quality. He really just brings in a bunch of young guys and hopes a few develop from within. We get a few guys here or there like Jennings and Collins but with all the stopgaps around them, it's not enough because we no longer have those "rocks" around them.

I can only see it getting worse. As DD goes, Harris, Woodson, Tauscher, Clifton the boat is taking on more water than Ted is thhrowing out. I'll give him credit, he's not panicking, but the boats about halfway down.

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You were eluding to the point that we only had injuries at ONE POSITION. You then followed it up with in 08 we had 3 defensive starters out at one time. That was not any diiferent than 05 when we had 3 offensive starters out at the same time. At least in 08 we had the back-ups in 05 we had practice squad players pressed into action

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Guys like Green, Favre, KGB, and Hendo were not big free agent signings or anything. They were young players who were brought in and given a chance to develop. If you aren't patient enough to give the younger talent their shot then you should be a fan of the Redskins or something because thats where the "superstars" come from and they usually don't pop up overnight. Korey Hall and Rodgers have been decent replacements at those positions so far. We will see on Grant but he hasn't been horrible.

It's funny how everything is supposedly falling apart and none of these young players will ever have any success yet all of them have played in an NFC championship game already.

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Noone said none will have success, a few will and a few have. How many is the question. You say young talent should be given the chance to develop, I agree, but how for 3 straight years can we have the youngest team in the league? Are they developing?

Can I expect them to develop like Collins or Harrell? Will Ted do a better job fixing all these question marks than he has done rebuilding the O-line?

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29 INT's and 7 lost fumbles had a little more to do with it than TT. It's impossible to win when your QB has that bad of a year. Favre was the man for many years, but it was painful to watch him play that season. He was checked out mentally.
If you ascribe to the theory that Rodgers' 16 turnovers last year had to do with our 6-10 season, then you have to admit 36 turnovers had more than twice as much to do with our 4-12 season.

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