Talent question· Page 13

dd80forever
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15 years ago

Zero, I'm just stating that when Ted took over it was 10-6 the previous year. My intentions were never to actually say we were not declining. However we were certainly not declining to a 4-12 team that fast. Injuries, and Ted himself, had alot to do with it.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

29 INT's and 7 lost fumbles had a little more to do with it than Ted Thompson. It's impossible to win when your QB has that bad of a year. Favre was the man for many years, but it was painful to watch him play that season. He was checked out mentally.
If you ascribe to the theory that Rodgers' 16 turnovers last year had to do with our 6-10 season, then you have to admit 36 turnovers had more than twice as much to do with our 4-12 season.

"dd80forever" wrote:

C'mon now, Favre was playing with practice squad players. Did he play badly as well, yes, but you are kidding yourself if you don't think the squad around him was lacking serious talent.

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MassPackersFan
Member

15 years ago

#122

"dd80forever" wrote:

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

C'mon now, Favre was playing with practice squad players. Did he play badly as well, yes, but you are kidding yourself if you don't think the squad around him was lacking serious talent.

"dd80forever" wrote:

Oh it was, it was an aging team with cap problems and no depth, and that was only year 1 of the recovery process.

dd80forever
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15 years ago

#123

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

"dd80forever" wrote:

C'mon now, Favre was playing with practice squad players. Did he play badly as well, yes, but you are kidding yourself if you don't think the squad around him was lacking serious talent.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

Oh it was, it was an aging team with cap problems and no depth, and that was only year 1 of the recovery process.

"dd80forever" wrote:

The Top 4 backs went down. What kind of depth would we have if Grant, Jackson, Lumpkin went down? Where's the depth behind these guys?

Also what if Jennings, Jordy, Jones and Martin went down? Who's starting then opposite DD?

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Rockmolder
Honored Member

15 years ago

#124

"dd80forever" wrote:

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

C'mon now, Favre was playing with practice squad players. Did he play badly as well, yes, but you are kidding yourself if you don't think the squad around him was lacking serious talent.

"dd80forever" wrote:

Oh it was, it was an aging team with cap problems and no depth, and that was only year 1 of the recovery process.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

"dd80forever" wrote:

Green and Davenport where our only viable starters. Najeh had always been very injury prone and both Gado and Fisher where pretty much big unknowns where we got somewhat lucky with.

But once again, you single out just one position. Look at our WRs in that season. Ferguson was a starter, who hadn't actually played an entire season in his career. Behind that we had Antonio Chadman, Jamal Jones, Chad Lucas. Do you actually still know anyone but Chadman out of those? Even he never actually got over 200 yards again, he only had a mediocre season once... in 2005.

Same goes for pretty much every position for that team. It kind off resembles our struggles on the D-line this year, but then at every position. Just name a CB you would have starting behind Carroll, who was really not that good....

longtimefan
Registered Topic Starter

15 years ago

#125

Rock, that is his point I think?

The players were no bodys, and our record reflected that

I get what he has been trying to say..But I think he is failing to realize that since it was such a bad over all team, they were still able got to nfcgc in 2 years..

I say the 08 team had better over all talent, so why can't they get to same spot.

I dont know why he thinks the 05 team given all the 4th and 5th stringers still had better talent

Nonstopdrivel
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15 years ago

#126

It takes my breath away that this topic has reached 9 pages.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

15 years ago

#127

I'm going to say my comments made the most sense in this thread. Cuz, I don't understand the rest! 🙂

wpr
Preferred Member

15 years ago

#128

I'm going to say my comments made the most sense in this thread. Cuz, I don't understand the rest! :)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

:thumbleft:

MassPackersFan
Member

15 years ago

#129

"dd80forever" wrote:

Question A. Easy, Wynn.

Question B. How many games did we have 4 of our top 5 WR's out?

grossman
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15 years ago

#130

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